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* emacs lisp confusion using append
@ 2003-06-05  2:39 Balaji Venkataraman
  2003-06-05  6:53 ` David Kastrup
  2003-06-05 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
  0 siblings, 2 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Balaji Venkataraman @ 2003-06-05  2:39 UTC (permalink / raw)


I was trying to write some lisp code, but am completely boggled by this.

Here's what I originally had in my ~/.emacs:
--WAS WORKING--
(defun append-path (elisp-path)
  "Appends ELISP-PATH path to the load-path.
Emacs will look for additional .el files there"
  (setq load-path (append load-path (list (expand-file-name elisp-path)))))

(append-path "~/usr/elisp")
--WAS WORKING--

This puts "~/usr/elisp" as the last elem of load-path.

Then I changed it to this:
--NOT WORKING--
(defun append-path (orig-path path)
  "Appends PATH to ORIG-PATH. PATH is a string and ORIG-PATH is a variable.
If ORIG-PATH is not defined, returns nil."
  (if (boundp 'orig-path)
      (setq orig-path (append orig-path (list (expand-file-name path))))
    nil))

(append-path load-path "~/usr/elisp")
--NOT WORKING--

Now "~/usr/elisp" is *missing* from the load-path. 

I did reach for the lisp reference manual and found this footnote:
   (1) There is no strictly equivalent way to add an element to the end
of a list.  You can use `(append LISTNAME (list NEWELT))', which
creates a whole new list by copying LISTNAME and adding NEWELT to its
end.  Or you can use `(nconc LISTNAME (list NEWELT))', which modifies
LISTNAME by following all the CDRs and then replacing the terminating
`nil'.  Compare this to adding an element to the beginning of a list
with `cons', which neither copies nor modifies the list.

Also the manual says: "but the last one should usually be a list. All
arguments except the last one are copied, so none of the arguments is
altered."

I don't understand why the first one works and the second doesn't. I no lisp
expert and I realise there are many deficiencies in my code. Is listp a
better substitute for boundp? Help appreciated.

Thanks!
-- 
Remember 2 + 2 = 5, for large values of 2

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* Re: emacs lisp confusion using append
  2003-06-05  2:39 emacs lisp confusion using append Balaji Venkataraman
@ 2003-06-05  6:53 ` David Kastrup
  2003-06-05 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: David Kastrup @ 2003-06-05  6:53 UTC (permalink / raw)


Balaji Venkataraman <bvenkata+nospam@sm.intel.com> writes:

> I was trying to write some lisp code, but am completely boggled by this.
> 
> Here's what I originally had in my ~/.emacs:
> --WAS WORKING--
> (defun append-path (elisp-path)
>   "Appends ELISP-PATH path to the load-path.
> Emacs will look for additional .el files there"
>   (setq load-path (append load-path (list (expand-file-name elisp-path)))))
> 
> (append-path "~/usr/elisp")
> --WAS WORKING--

For some definition of "working".  This will not hesitate to add more
and more identical copies to the path each time you call it.

> Then I changed it to this:
> --NOT WORKING--
> (defun append-path (orig-path path)
>   "Appends PATH to ORIG-PATH. PATH is a string and ORIG-PATH is a variable.
> If ORIG-PATH is not defined, returns nil."
>   (if (boundp 'orig-path)
>       (setq orig-path (append orig-path (list (expand-file-name path))))
>     nil))
> 
> (append-path load-path "~/usr/elisp")
> --NOT WORKING--
> 
> Now "~/usr/elisp" is *missing* from the load-path. 

Well, but it _is_ in orig-path (before append-path exits).  Lisp is
call-by-value, not call-by-reference.

You need to use a macro to achieve call-by-reference.  Like

(defmacro append-path (orig-path path)
  `(and (boundp ',orig-path)
        (add-to-list ',orig-path ,path t)))

> I don't understand why the first one works and the second doesn't. I
> no lisp expert and I realise there are many deficiencies in my
> code. Is listp a better substitute for boundp?

listp is something completely different.  boundp checks whether a given
name has a value.  listp checks whether a given value is a list.

-- 
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

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* Re: emacs lisp confusion using append
  2003-06-05  2:39 emacs lisp confusion using append Balaji Venkataraman
  2003-06-05  6:53 ` David Kastrup
@ 2003-06-05 14:20 ` Stefan Monnier
  1 sibling, 0 replies; 3+ messages in thread
From: Stefan Monnier @ 2003-06-05 14:20 UTC (permalink / raw)


> (defun append-path (orig-path path)
>   "Appends PATH to ORIG-PATH. PATH is a string and ORIG-PATH is a variable.
> If ORIG-PATH is not defined, returns nil."
>   (if (boundp 'orig-path)
>       (setq orig-path (append orig-path (list (expand-file-name path))))
>     nil))

You're confusing variable names and variable values.


        Stefan

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