From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Carbon emacs - frame too big for minibuffer can't resize window Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:59:38 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Message-ID: References: <87is4dd3z1.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@gnu.org> <87d5uld0v0.fsf-monnier+inbox@gnu.org> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1109552216 28753 80.91.229.2 (28 Feb 2005 00:56:56 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Mon, 28 Feb 2005 00:56:56 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Mon Feb 28 01:56:56 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D5ZD6-0005kN-1F for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Mon, 28 Feb 2005 01:56:32 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1D5ZVM-0006wB-0C for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 27 Feb 2005 20:15:24 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!individual.net!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Trace: individual.net zOvxAZkfjNlafsDL/Vy4XwB0lozbQJwZud1R/n2lPqDCYU7dJh X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/22.0.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:poH2J+9qJ2KjGbK8Ea7QN4XWLh0= Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:128873 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:24415 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:24415 Peter Dyballa writes: > Am 28.02.2005 um 00:46 schrieb Stefan Monnier: > >> The Carbon Emacs code is in development, so you should try and help >> fix the >> bugs (and other misfeatures, mis-leading behaviors, ...), rather >> than try >> and work around them. To fix the bugs, you should bring them to them >> attention of developers. > > That's good news! I thought all Carbon development was 'migrated' to > amateurs (those who do love), particularly in Japan, which produce a > Carbon Emacs from CVS that Apple is advertising actively, and that > this code won't migrate into the official code base. > > Carbon Emacs really needs a lot of development, particularly with > fonts and fontsets. Latin and Unicode encodings are badly supported, > only Mac-Roman and iso-2022-7bit (maybe 8bit too) work well -- at > least with the fontsets I created from system fonts that are Unicode > encoded. The HELLO file looks much to empty! But I have to admit > that this fontsets things still have a lot of secrets for me ... Are you sure we are talking about the same thing? This sounds like the old 20.7 Cocoa port. The current developer version of Emacs should compile on Carbon fine IIRC. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum