From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? Date: 07 Oct 2003 23:11:05 +0200 Organization: Organization?!? Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1c58a7c3.0310010003.78c0fa00@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1065561401 18606 80.91.224.253 (7 Oct 2003 21:16:41 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 7 Oct 2003 21:16:41 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Oct 07 23:16:38 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1A6zCA-0005fi-00 for ; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 23:16:38 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1A6zBQ-0005Ol-0H for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 07 Oct 2003 17:15:52 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!p3ee20c9e.dip.t-dialin.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 25 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p3ee20c9e.dip.t-dialin.net (62.226.12.158) Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1065561065 17597559 62.226.12.158 (16 [198409]) X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:117115 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:13043 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:13043 Hans-Christoph Wirth writes: > Barry Margolin wrote: > > In article , > > Sven Utcke wrote: > > >Well, considering where C-y is on an american keyboard (it's fine on a > > >German one, incidentially), makes one wonder if Emacs control > > >sequences where ever designed for anything but mnemonic value --- Most > > >of them certainly are in strange places. > > > > Almost all the key bindings that have been around since the early > > days (late 70's) were chosen solely for mnemonic value. I don't > > think ergonomics was given much consideration at all (I don't > > recall hearing about Carpal Tunnel Syndrome or RSI until several > > years later). > > I'd bet that vi's ZZ command (that is shift z z) is chosen because > it is very easy to type. (If you switch to the qwerty layout as I > always do.) Uh, vi's hjkl commands certainly have also been chosen because of that. But we were not talking about vi here. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum