From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Kastrup Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: GNU.org is down Date: 10 Dec 2003 17:23:32 +0100 Organization: Organization?!? Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87oeuht8d8.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1071073865 5751 80.91.224.253 (10 Dec 2003 16:31:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:31:05 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Dec 10 17:31:02 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AU7Es-0007ta-00 for ; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 17:31:02 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AU8B2-0007io-IC for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 10 Dec 2003 12:31:08 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsmi-us.news.garr.it!newsmi-eu.news.garr.it!NewsITBone-GARR!fu-berlin.de!uni-berlin.de!p3ee20c8d.dip.t-dialin.NET!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 40 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: p3ee20c8d.dip.t-dialin.net (62.226.12.141) Original-X-Trace: news.uni-berlin.de 1071073413 269353 62.226.12.141 ([198409]) X-Face: 2FEFf>]>q>2iw=B6, xrUubRI>pR&Ml9=ao@P@i)L:\urd*t9M~y1^:+Y]'C0~{mAl`oQuAl \!3KEIp?*w`|bL5qr,H)LFO6Q=qx~iH4DN; i"; /yuIsqbLLCh/!U#X[S~(5eZ41to5f%E@'ELIi$t^ Vc\LWP@J5p^rst0+('>Er0=^1{]M9!p?&:\z]|;&=NP3AhB!B_bi^]Pfkw User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3.50 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:119182 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:15119 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:15119 David Steuber writes: > Pascal Bourguignon writes: > > > David Steuber writes: > > > > > Markus Weimer writes: > > > > > > > apperently, gnu.org is down. Is anyone aware of a mirror? > > > > > > I guess that's why I can't hit CVS on subversions.gnu.org. Anyone > > > know what the deal is? > > > > Check http://savannah.gnu.org/statement.html > > Well this sucks big time I must say. Complain to the involved criminals. It is sad that scum like that does not even refrain from destroying infrastructure for the common good. The FSF has to cope with the equivalent of finding that someone has gone to considerable criminal effort in order to achieve the equivalent of wiring explosives into a Red Cross building or poisoning the food in soup kitchens: it was a rather obscure vulnerability that the perpetrators used for that attack. So there is not much one can do except boost the security to levels one should normally only consider necessary for military or intelligence instead of charity operations. Maintaining a consistent high level of security causes a severe drain of usability and accessibility (as you have noticed), and it also requires considerable human resources permanently. What kind of people gleefully cause a considerable permanent damage to a charity instead of elsewhere "just" for the hope of monetary gains? I hope that they are found and dealt with in proportion to their crime and the impact it will have. -- David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum