From: David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: Is Emacs becoming Word?
Date: Sat, 26 Mar 2005 12:14:04 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <x53buihd6r.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (raw)
In-Reply-To: mailman.257.1111822540.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Greg Novak <novak@ucolick.org> writes:
> * David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote:
>>> Today when I was editing source code and tried to type pi/2 in a
>>> buffer, Emacs replaced it with some special character that appeared
>>> as "1/2" as a single character.
>> Unlikely. Let me name a few things that might have happened:
>> a) you use Leim (C-\) for input of international characters and the
>> transliteration for ½ is /2. Leim is not on unless you enable it. It
>> should be easy to find an input method that suits your bill better.
>> b) you use font-lock-mode in LaTeX and write something like ^2, in
>> which case a subscript 2 appears. font-lock-mode is not turned on by
>> default. Even if you turn it on, you can remove the script
>> highlighting.
>
> None of the above? I've never (intentionally) used Leim, and I didn't
> type C-\ before the /2.
Typing it once in the buffer is sufficient. Your mode line will then
show a "1" pretty much at the start, and the corresponding tooltip
will explain this is the "latin-1" input encoding.
> I had font-lock-mode on, but wasn't in Latex mode. I was in Python
> mode, and I typed nothing other than pi/2, which got translated to
> "pi(one_half_as_one_character)"
Again: input encodings don't switch themselves onall by themselves.
> And another thing: when I type " or ', Emacs seems to think that I'm
> trying to input a special character. If I type 'a, I get an angstrom
> symbol, even though (again) I'm editing python code and I'm just
> trying to type a string that starts with a.
You have the latin-1 input encoding enabled. This does not happen
automatically. You can verify this by calling
emacs -q
and then editing a Python file: that should give you the
out-of-the-box configuration of Emacs (plus site-wide
configurations). And if you suspect the site-wide configuration, try
emacs -q -no-site-file
instead. Again: Emacs is not doing anything by default here. _You_
or your packager are doing something here.
>>> The other day I was editing Lisp code and found that instead of the
>>> usual paren highlighting, Emacs was highlighting the entire enclosed
>>> expression.
>> I don't get that here. What did you switch on to get it?
>
> This suddenly appeared after updating software, in this case on an
> OS X machine. I didn't enable any switch (myself), I just got it.
Again: this is not an Emacs default. You are likely using some
customization that the one responsible for packaging Emacs thinks a
good idea.
Complain to your packager.
>> But they are rarely on by default.
>
> I'm afraid I have to disagree. All three of the above issues
> appeared after version upgrades: the first two on a Linux machine,
> the last on an OS X laptop.
They are off by default, really. The Emacs default is what you get
with
emacs -q -no-site-file
> Maybe there are 3000 new features, and these are the three that are
> on by default, in which case I guess you'd be right, in principle.
No, really. Please try out emacs -q -no-site-file. _That_'s the
state you can complain about to Emacs developers. All the rest is
somebody else's responsibility.
--
David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum
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2005-03-25 21:37 ` Is Emacs becoming Word? David Kastrup
2005-03-25 23:30 ` Jochen Küpper
2005-03-26 7:15 ` Greg Novak
2005-03-26 11:43 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-26 12:04 ` Peter Dyballa
[not found] ` <mailman.257.1111822540.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-26 11:08 ` Chong Yidong
2005-03-26 11:14 ` David Kastrup [this message]
2005-03-28 10:50 ` Olive
2005-03-28 21:04 ` Miles Bader
2005-03-28 22:52 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-25 18:05 Greg Novak
2005-03-25 18:21 ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-25 18:35 ` nfreimann
[not found] ` <mailman.224.1111776025.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-25 21:20 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-25 21:30 ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-26 12:44 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.238.1111787876.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-25 22:29 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-25 22:58 ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-26 9:55 ` Gian Uberto Lauri
2005-03-26 11:24 ` Joe Corneli
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2005-03-26 11:24 ` David Kastrup
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2005-03-25 23:37 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-26 1:30 ` Henrik Enberg
2005-03-26 2:06 ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-26 12:37 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-26 12:53 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-26 17:11 ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-26 17:32 ` Eli Zaretskii
2005-03-27 1:08 ` Greg Novak
2005-03-27 4:35 ` Eli Zaretskii
[not found] ` <mailman.300.1111886723.28103.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2005-03-27 2:02 ` David Kastrup
2005-03-27 10:05 ` Steinar Børmer
2005-03-27 17:08 ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-28 0:17 ` Greg Novak
2005-03-28 0:54 ` Joe Corneli
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2005-03-28 2:13 ` Thomas A. Horsley
2005-03-28 3:13 ` Henrik Enberg
2005-03-28 4:39 ` Joe Corneli
2005-03-31 20:52 ` Greg Novak
2005-03-31 21:26 ` Joe Corneli
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2005-04-01 0:35 ` Thien-Thi Nguyen
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2005-03-26 16:45 ` Thomas A. Horsley
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