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From: Phillip Lord <p.lord@russet.org.uk>
Subject: Re: What did you do with Emacs!!!!!
Date: 08 Apr 2003 12:10:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <vfu1d92qin.fsf@rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: x5el4ds4x3.fsf@lola.goethe.zz

>>>>> "David" == David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:

  David> Tim X <timx@spamto.devnul.com> writes:

  >> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> writes:
  >>
  >> > Tim X <timx@spamto.devnul.com> writes:
  >> >
  >> > > The first thing I did when moving to emacs 21 was finid out
  >> > > how
  >> > >to get rid of the toolbar, the blinking cursor and rebuilt it
  >> > >without image support.
  >> >  What does the last buy you except make it completely
  >> >  impossible
  >> >to use something like
  >> ><URL:http://preview-latex.sourceforge.net>?
  >> I don't need it - I'm a blind user and ALL forms of graphics are
  >> a total waste of time for me.

  David> A detail worth mentioning.  Is there an advantage of using a
  David> window environment at all in that case?  I would imagine that
  David> it would not buy you anything over a pure tty Emacs.

It depends how he is using Emacs. An emacspeak interface would work
well within both. However there is still an advantage to using a
windowing version of emacs, as simply moving between the emacs window
and other windows will be easier, as it will have the correct title,
that is "emacs" instead of "xterm", or "command prompt" or whatever. 

Most of the speech interfaces out there do actually reflect the visual
interface. Many of the windows ones for instance, when they are
reading text will only read what is actually on screen. Hence the
blind user still needs functionality to minimize and maximize windows,
rather than just move between them, even though you might have though
this was a purely visual cue.

Cheers

Phil

  reply	other threads:[~2003-04-08 11:10 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 36+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-04-01 16:44 What did you do with Emacs!!!!! R. Readi
2003-04-01 16:57 ` Marco Parrone
2003-04-01 18:02   ` R. Readi
2003-04-01 18:09     ` John Russell
2003-04-01 18:24     ` Adam
2003-04-02  2:02     ` Miles Bader
2003-04-01 19:28 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-04-02  9:13 ` Ivan Kanis
2003-04-02 10:32 ` Alfred M. Szmidt
2003-04-02 17:02 ` R. Readi
2003-04-02 18:25   ` Kai Großjohann
2003-04-02 19:06   ` Bijan Soleymani
2003-04-02 17:33 ` Alan Mackenzie
2003-04-03 11:20   ` R. Readi
2003-04-03  8:28 ` Tim X
2003-04-04  7:00   ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-04-06 17:27   ` David Kastrup
2003-04-06 19:39     ` Niels Freimann
     [not found]     ` <mailman.4183.1049658173.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-04-07 13:08       ` Mario Domgörgen
2003-04-07 17:59         ` Adam
2003-04-08  8:31     ` Tim X
2003-04-08  9:40       ` David Kastrup
2003-04-08 11:10         ` Phillip Lord [this message]
2003-04-09  6:33           ` Lee Sau Dan
     [not found]           ` <m3n0j07n7g.fsf@mika.informatik.uni-f\x04reiburg.de>
2003-04-09  9:45             ` Phillip Lord
2003-04-09  6:33         ` Lee Sau Dan
2003-04-09  8:36           ` David Kastrup
2003-04-10  8:11         ` Tim X
2003-04-10  9:01           ` David Kastrup
2003-04-10 14:40           ` Hubert Chan
2003-04-03  9:27 ` Francois Fleuret
2003-04-03 11:27   ` R. Readi
2003-04-03 15:19     ` Adam
2003-04-04 20:19   ` John Russell
2003-04-06 17:25 ` David Kastrup
     [not found] <mailman.3960.1049221960.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-04-01 18:48 ` R. Readi

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