From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? Date: 07 May 2003 12:18:41 +0100 Organization: Dept of Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K. Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <39d9c156.0305042200.1639a252@posting.google.com> <39d9c156.0305060558.7cba26d9@posting.google.com> <39d9c156.0305070301.16d27b39@posting.google.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1052309858 13558 80.91.224.249 (7 May 2003 12:17:38 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 12:17:38 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 07 14:17:36 2003 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 19DNqi-0003T8-00 for ; Wed, 07 May 2003 14:16:41 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 19DNgA-0005xu-02 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 07 May 2003 08:05:46 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news-FFM2.ecrc.net!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.fjserv.net!nntp.theplanet.net!inewsm1.nntp.theplanet.net!zen.net.uk!peernews.manap.net!peernews.mcc.ac.uk!cs.man.ac.uk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help,comp.sys.mac.apps Original-Lines: 31 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk Original-X-Trace: wapping.cs.man.ac.uk 1052306322 22658 130.88.198.228 (7 May 2003 11:18:42 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@wapping.cs.man.ac.uk Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 11:18:42 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.2.93 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:112883 comp.sys.mac.apps:360755 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:9380 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:9380 >>>>> "BK" == BK writes: BK> Oliver Scholz wrote ... BK> I don't give a damn about whether or not Emacs should allow HIG BK> conformant pasting, because this is the least of my problems, BK> which you would know if you had read my post. The problem which BK> I have is that very important functionality is totally BK> unreachable regardless of what method I use. It's not working BK> the Emacs way *and* it is not working the Mac way, nor is it BK> working any other way. I think that others have already mentioned that they use emacs on macs, and that it works fine, including the functionality that you ask for. You did complain that emacs does not fulfil the standard HIG interface requirements. It doesn't because its not supposed to, although, of course, it would be very nice to make it behave this way as an option. BK> If you find that none of which you have responded does BK> contribute in this manner, then you should ask yourself whether BK> you are actually interested in contributing to find a fix The problem has been the manner of your questioning, which has been fairly aggressive. People would probably have been more helpful if instead of saying "Emacs is crippleware, what a lot of crap", you had instead asked "I can not get emacs to work, can you help me?" Phil