From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Phillip Lord Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: beginner el form Date: 03 May 2005 12:09:15 +0100 Organization: School of Computer Science, University of Manchester, U.K. Message-ID: References: <7ebr7weqbn.fsf@ada2.unipv.it> <7e1x8sedm1.fsf@ada2.unipv.it> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1115224751 19348 80.91.229.2 (4 May 2005 16:39:11 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 4 May 2005 16:39:11 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed May 04 18:39:10 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTMth-0007mZ-5r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 18:38:53 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DTLE3-000133-CK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 04 May 2005 10:51:47 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!transit.news.xs4all.nl!news2.euro.net!zen.net.uk!demorgan.zen.co.uk!130.88.203.18.MISMATCH!peernews.mcc.ac.uk!cs.man.ac.uk!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 20 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: rpc71.cs.man.ac.uk Original-X-Trace: wapping.cs.man.ac.uk 1115118555 16369 130.88.198.228 (3 May 2005 11:09:15 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: news@wapping.cs.man.ac.uk Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 3 May 2005 11:09:15 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.4 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:130620 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:26269 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:26269 >>>>> "Adam" == Adam writes: Adam> As an elisp novice, I'm dropping into it from time to time, Adam> and making progress with the elisp manual and introduction. Am Adam> spending most of my other time calling cmucl as a listener Adam> with c-x l and c-x c-e. The cmucl documentation is good, so am Adam> having fun. My advice is learn to use the debugger (edebug) straight away if you have not already done so. I normally write lisp into a .el file, evaluating and debugging as I go. The use of edebug is great and saves an awful lot of test evaluation, as you can generally see what is wrong pretty quickly. Cheers Phil