From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai =?iso-8859-15?q?Gro=DFjohann?=) Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: MULE shows gibberish; now what? Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:11:22 +0200 Organization: University of Dortmund, Germany Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: localhost.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1032964090 19061 127.0.0.1 (25 Sep 2002 14:28:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 25 Sep 2002 14:28:10 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 17uD96-0004x7-00 for ; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 16:28:08 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 17uD9C-0008V9-00; Wed, 25 Sep 2002 10:28:14 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!nntp.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news-spur1.maxwell.syr.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!eusc.inter.net!Informatik.Uni-Dortmund.DE!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 43 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.090008 (Oort Gnus v0.08) Emacs/21.3.50 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Cancel-Lock: sha1:0Z2bmvjhQNUCt73LGopJV6txAIQ= Original-Xref: nntp.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:105289 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:1842 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:1842 Ilya Zakharevich writes: > ], who wrote in article : >> Ilya Zakharevich writes: >> > , and maybe Emacs >> thinks it's using a font in the foo encoding but the real font is in >> the bar encoding? > > Of course it does, what else could it be! But how would I detect it > and/or fix it? With C-u C-x =, as I said. >> Put point on a Cyrillic character and type C-u C-x =, this tells you >> stuff, including the charset that Emacs thinks this character is in. > > Hmm? You mean that doing "Hello world" demo, one gets different > results of your test on different machines? Now I'm completely > confused... Different people might use different fonts on different machines. In that sense, the results could be different. I don't know anything about Cyrillic, so let me give a Latin example. Character number 164 is the Euro sign in Latin-9 and the Currency sign in Latin-1. If I now set the X11 resource Emacs.font to a Latin-9 font, then Emacs will display Latin-1 characters with that font! This means, if the HELLO file includes that currency sign, I would wrongly see a euro sign, but C-u C-x = would tell me that Emacs thinks it is displaying a Latin-1 character. This is a misconfiguration of Emacs, and can be corrected. Maybe you have a similar misconfiguration of Emacs. (It is also arguably a bug since Emacs should know from the font name that it is not a Latin-1 font. But not all fonts specify "iso8859-15" in their names, so it is difficult to know.) kai -- ~/.signature is: umop 3p!sdn (Frank Nobis)