Re: tramp

Re: tramp

[Kai Großjohann]

Roger Mason <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> writes:

> I downloaded tramp-2.0.22 and installed it.  I am trying to get it
> configured. For now I have to use telnet as the default connection method,
> so I executed
>
> (setq tramp-default-method "tm") in the scratch buffer and it returned

The new Tramp has different methods.  It auto-detects whether to use
base64 or uuencode encodings.  The method is now called "telnet".

kai
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Re: tramp

[Michael P. Soulier]

On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:35:37 -0230 (NDDT), Roger Mason
<rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> wrote:
> 
> When I try to get a file from a my home dir on a remote machine:
> 
> /fred.here.there.everywhere:~/.emacs

    Ah! So that's the new syntax! It's really confusing having all that
documentation at tramp.sourceforge.net conflict with the new tramp. Is the
EmacsWiki up to date? I don't see tramp mentioned there. 

    Hmm. I just tried the new tramp to login to my box at home.

Args out of range: 0, 0

    This is in the tramp buffer:

Enter passphrase for key '/home/e-smith/files/users/msoulier/.ssh/id_rsa': 

    Mike

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Re: tramp

[Kai Großjohann]

"Michael P. Soulier" <msoulier@storm.ca._nospam> writes:

> On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:35:37 -0230 (NDDT), Roger Mason
> <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> wrote:
>> 
>> When I try to get a file from a my home dir on a remote machine:
>> 
>> /fred.here.there.everywhere:~/.emacs
>
>     Ah! So that's the new syntax! It's really confusing having all that
> documentation at tramp.sourceforge.net conflict with the new tramp.

I'm sorry.  I really should change the SourceForge information.
[time passes]  I've now done it.

>     Hmm. I just tried the new tramp to login to my box at home.
>
> Args out of range: 0, 0
>
>     This is in the tramp buffer:
>
> Enter passphrase for key '/home/e-smith/files/users/msoulier/.ssh/id_rsa': 

Please submit a bug report, using M-x tramp-bug RET.  That also tells
you which information I need to successfully chase the bug.  In your
case, it's important to load tramp.el instead of tramp.elc and to
provide a backtrace (you get it if you do M-x toggle-debug-on-error
RET and the reproduce the error message).

kai
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Re: tramp

[Roger Mason]

Hello,

Please forgive my ignorance, but how do I ensure loading of tramp.el & not
tramp.elc?

Thanks,

Roger

On Fri, 27 Sep 2002, Kai [iso-8859-15] Großjohann wrote:

> "Michael P. Soulier" <msoulier@storm.ca._nospam> writes:
> 
> > On Tue, 24 Sep 2002 16:35:37 -0230 (NDDT), Roger Mason
> > <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> wrote:
> >> 
> >> When I try to get a file from a my home dir on a remote machine:
> >> 
> >> /fred.here.there.everywhere:~/.emacs
> >
> >     Ah! So that's the new syntax! It's really confusing having all that
> > documentation at tramp.sourceforge.net conflict with the new tramp.
> 
> I'm sorry.  I really should change the SourceForge information.
> [time passes]  I've now done it.
> 
> >     Hmm. I just tried the new tramp to login to my box at home.
> >
> > Args out of range: 0, 0
> >
> >     This is in the tramp buffer:
> >
> > Enter passphrase for key '/home/e-smith/files/users/msoulier/.ssh/id_rsa': 
> 
> Please submit a bug report, using M-x tramp-bug RET.  That also tells
> you which information I need to successfully chase the bug.  In your
> case, it's important to load tramp.el instead of tramp.elc and to
> provide a backtrace (you get it if you do M-x toggle-debug-on-error
> RET and the reproduce the error message).
> 
> kai
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Re: tramp

[Carsten Dominik]

>>>>> "RM" == Roger Mason <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> writes:

RM> Hello, Please forgive my ignorance, but how do I ensure loading of
RM> tramp.el & not tramp.elc?



Either remove tramp.elc, or load tramp.el explicitly with

M-x load-file /path/to/tramp.el RET

- Carsten

Re: tramp

[Kai Großjohann]

Roger Mason <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> writes:

> Please forgive my ignorance, but how do I ensure loading of tramp.el & not
> tramp.elc?

You could delete tramp.elc, for example :-)

Or say (load "tramp.el") in your .emacs file.

kai
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w3 again,

[Roger Mason]

Hi,

I downloaded and installed the CVS versions of url and w3.  When I invoke
w3 (m-x w3) I get:

Loading w3...
Loading cus-edit...
Loading easymenu...done
Loading cus-edit...done
Loading w3...done
Loading url-auth...done
Could not load cookie file /home/rmason/.url/cookies
Loading w3-hot...done
/home/rmason/.mosaic-hotlist-default does not exist!
Contacting host: www.cs.indiana.edu:80
Loading url-cache...done
Downloading of `http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/w3/docs.html' complete.
error in process filter: w3-decode-charset: Invalid function: (macro .
#[(handle) "ÁE‡" [handle nth 2] 3])
error in process filter: Invalid function: (macro . #[(handle) "ÁE‡"
[handle nth 2] 3]

Thanks for any help you can give.

Roger Mason

Re: w3 again,

[Kevin Rodgers]

Roger Mason wrote:

> I downloaded and installed the CVS versions of url and w3.  When I invoke
> w3 (m-x w3) I get:
> 
> Loading w3...
> Loading cus-edit...
> Loading easymenu...done
> Loading cus-edit...done
> Loading w3...done
> Loading url-auth...done
> Could not load cookie file /home/rmason/.url/cookies
> Loading w3-hot...done
> /home/rmason/.mosaic-hotlist-default does not exist!
> Contacting host: www.cs.indiana.edu:80
> Loading url-cache...done
> Downloading of `http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/w3/docs.html' complete.
> error in process filter: w3-decode-charset: Invalid function: (macro .
> #[(handle) "ÁE++" [handle nth 2] 3])
> error in process filter: Invalid function: (macro . #[(handle) "ÁE++"
> [handle nth 2] 3]
> 
> Thanks for any help you can give.


Apparently the w3-decode-charset function uses a macro that is not
defined (if you're running it interpreted) or was not defined at
compile-time (if you're running it compiled).

-- 
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Re: w3 again,

[Kai Großjohann]

Roger Mason <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> writes:

> error in process filter: Invalid function: (macro . #[(handle) "ÁE"
> [handle nth 2] 3]

Hm.  Are you sure that "make" to compile the two packages used the
same Emacs as the one you're using to run it?

kai
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Re: w3 again,

[Roger Mason]

Hello,

I checked the config.log for the url & w3 packages: the configure script
found 21.1 in both cases, which is correct.

Thanks,

Roger Mason

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Kai [iso-8859-15] Großjohann wrote:

> Roger Mason <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> writes:
> 
> > error in process filter: Invalid function: (macro . #[(handle) "ÁE"
> > [handle nth 2] 3]
> 
> Hm.  Are you sure that "make" to compile the two packages used the
> same Emacs as the one you're using to run it?
> 
> kai
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Re: w3 again,

[Kai Großjohann]

Roger Mason <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> writes:

> I checked the config.log for the url & w3 packages: the configure script
> found 21.1 in both cases, which is correct.

Hm.  Could you M-: (load "w3.el") RET, then try again?  Maybe now the
backtrace is better, or the issue goes away completely.

kai
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Re: w3 again,

[Roger Mason]

Hi,

It returns 't' in the minibuffer, and

Loading w3.el (source)...done
t

in the messages buffer.

Roger

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Kai [iso-8859-15] Großjohann wrote:

> Roger Mason <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> writes:
> 
> > I checked the config.log for the url & w3 packages: the configure script
> > found 21.1 in both cases, which is correct.
> 
> Hm.  Could you M-: (load "w3.el") RET, then try again?  Maybe now the
> backtrace is better, or the issue goes away completely.
> 
> kai
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Re: w3 again,

[Roger Mason]

Hello,

I had another go at w3.  I removed the *.elc files of url and w3, set
debug-on-error to 't' and invoked w3 using 'm-x w3'.  here is the
resulting backtrace:

Debugger entered--Lisp error: (invalid-function (macro . #[(handle) "ÁE‡"
[handle nth 2] 3]))
  mm-handle-encoding((#<buffer  *mm*<2>> ("text/html") nil nil nil nil nil
nil))
  w3-decode-charset((#<buffer  *mm*<2>> ("text/html") nil nil nil nil nil
nil))
  w3-fetch-callback("http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/w3/docs.html")
  apply(w3-fetch-callback "http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/w3/docs.html")
  url-http-activate-callback()
  url-http-wait-for-headers-change-function(1 185 184)
  url-http-generic-filter(#<process www.cs.indiana.edu> "HTTP/1.1 304 Not
Modified
\nDate: Tue, 01 Oct 2002 17:33:19 GMT
\nServer: Apache/1.3.26 (Unix) PHP/4.2.2 mod_ssl/2.8.10 OpenSSL/0.9.6e
\nConnection: close
\nETag: \"148a7e-b86-3c02cee1\"
\n
\n")

I found a thread at
http://mail.gnu.org/pipermail/emacs-devel/2002-January/004938.html
discussing the same error.  But there did not seem to be any fix.

It would be nice to find a cure for this, but if not I'll try w3m instead.

Roger Mason
emacs 21.1
CVS versions of url & w3
Linux

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Kai [iso-8859-15] Großjohann wrote:

> Roger Mason <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> writes:
> 
> > I checked the config.log for the url & w3 packages: the configure script
> > found 21.1 in both cases, which is correct.
> 
> Hm.  Could you M-: (load "w3.el") RET, then try again?  Maybe now the
> backtrace is better, or the issue goes away completely.
> 
> kai
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Re: w3 again,

[Roger Mason]

Hello,

I have now found the problem.

Firstly, you were correct that running sources vs. byte-code helps to sort
the problem.

Weh I run source code, with debug-on-error set to 't' I get the following
backtrace on invoking m-x w3:

Loading w3 (source)...
Loading cl-macs...done
Loading cus-edit...
Loading easymenu...done
Loading cus-edit...done
Loading w3 (source)...done
Loading url-auth (source)...done
Loading cl-seq...done
Loading w3-hot (source)...done
Cannot determine format of hotlist file:
/home/rmason/.mosaic-hotlist-default
Contacting host: www.cs.indiana.edu:80
Loading url-cache (source)...done
Downloading of `http://www.cs.indiana.edu/elisp/w3/docs.html' complete.
Parsed  80% of 2951...
Parsed 100% of 2951...done
Drawing... done
error in process filter: if: Symbol's value as variable is void:
font-running-xemacs
error in process filter: Symbol's value as variable is void:
font-running-xemacs

On grepping for this variable in the site-lisp directory, I find it is not
defined, so I put

;; Kludge by rm Oct. 2 2002
(defvar font-running-xemacs nil
"True if this is Xemacs.  By default I set it to nil.")

in w3.el, and now everything seems to be OK.

I have not yet tried compiling and running compiled the code.

Thanks to all who assisted.

Roger Mason

On Sat, 28 Sep 2002, Kai [iso-8859-15] Großjohann wrote:

> Roger Mason <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> writes:
> 
> > I checked the config.log for the url & w3 packages: the configure script
> > found 21.1 in both cases, which is correct.
> 
> Hm.  Could you M-: (load "w3.el") RET, then try again?  Maybe now the
> backtrace is better, or the issue goes away completely.
> 
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tramp

[ftrw]

Hi,

I was using tramp last week and it worked.  Now it does not work.  I
suppose I added some new packages (w3 and gnuserv) and tweaked my
.emacs but I cannot figure out what.  Here are the symptoms:

 C-x C-f begins to find a file 

 I clear the minibuffer line and type '/' <TAB> <TAB> and a
 completions list window pops up, showing me all of the files and
 directories in my / directory and all of the hosts in my
 ~/.ssh/known_hosts file.

 I can complete the machine name, as '/machine.uaf.edu:' and when
 I hit <TAB> again, I get a [no match] command.

 If I complete the file name by typing it, as 
 '/machine.uaf.edu:.emacs', I get a message that says:

     'File not found and directory write-protected'

 It is trying to create a file in my root directory.  So tramp finds
 my ~/.ssh/known_hosts file ok but then the connection is not
 happening.

Thank you for any help.

Ryan

Re: tramp

[ftrw]

Michael Albinus <Michael.Albinus@alcatel.de> writes:

> ftrw@uaf.edu writes:
> 
> >  If I complete the file name by typing it, as 
> >  '/machine.uaf.edu:.emacs', I get a message that says:
> > 
> >      'File not found and directory write-protected'
> > 
> >  It is trying to create a file in my root directory.  So tramp finds
> >  my ~/.ssh/known_hosts file ok but then the connection is not
> >  happening.
> 
> Could you, pls, perform `M-x tramp-bug', and follow the instructions
> there? Additionally, you shall provide the contents of the buffers
> `*tramp/ssh ftrw@machine.uaf.edu*' and `*debug tramp/ssh
> ftrw@machine.uaf.edu*' (given you're using ssh as default method).

I think it was a version issue in debian.  I updated some packages
(which is done automatically through a mirror) and seem to have
received something out of date.

I traced it down to:

file-name-handler-alist's value is 
(("\\.Z\\(~\\|\\.~[0-9]+~\\)?\\'\\|\\.bz2\\'\\|\\.tgz\\'\\|\\.g?z\\(~\\|\\.~[0-9]+~\\)?\\'" . jka-compr-handler)
 ("^/[^/]*$" . tramp-completion-file-name-handler)
 ("\\`/[^/:]+:" . tramp-file-name-handler)
 ("\\`/:" . file-name-non-special))

The regexp for the tramp-file-name-handler variable was slightly
different.  Somehow in my /etc/emacs/site-start.d directory, the
50tramp.el was an older one, as another one in the same directory
called 50tramp_debpkg.el (or something like that--obviously something
from the debian packageing) was identical to the one that I get now
when I reinstall tramp.  I found this out by comparing the
/etc/emacs/site-start.d directory on a different machine that I loaded
tramp to today.  So things work now after purging and reinstalling
tramp.  There is no more 50tramp_debpkg.el file to be seen.

So I think I may have caught a debian mirror with an old update.

Thanks for the good work.

Ryan

Re: Tramp

[Kai Großjohann]

Michael Albinus <Michael.Albinus@alcatel.de> writes:

> It's reproducible here with Tramp 2.0.23. Looks like the recent change
> in acquiring the default method has side effects. For the time being
> you should write the method explicitly like "/telnet:user@host:"

Does this patch fix it?

--- tramp.el.~2.227.~	Tue Sep 24 18:21:10 2002
+++ tramp.el	Wed Sep 25 16:03:19 2002
@@ -4331,13 +4331,14 @@
 
 (defun tramp-action-password (p multi-method method user host)
   "Query the user for a password."
+  (let ((pw-prompt (match-string 0)))
   (when (tramp-method-out-of-band-p multi-method method user host)
     (kill-process (get-buffer-process (current-buffer)))
     (error (concat "Out of band method `%s' not applicable "
 		   "for remote shell asking for a password")
 	   method))
   (tramp-message 9 "Sending password")
-  (tramp-enter-password p (match-string 0)))
+  (tramp-enter-password p pw-prompt)))
 
 (defun tramp-action-succeed (p multi-method method user host)
   "Signal success in finding shell prompt."

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Re: Tramp

[Roger Mason]

That fixed it.  Thanks.

Roger Mason

On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Kai [iso-8859-15] Großjohann wrote:

> Michael Albinus <Michael.Albinus@alcatel.de> writes:
> 
> > It's reproducible here with Tramp 2.0.23. Looks like the recent change
> > in acquiring the default method has side effects. For the time being
> > you should write the method explicitly like "/telnet:user@host:"
> 
> Does this patch fix it?
> 
> --- tramp.el.~2.227.~	Tue Sep 24 18:21:10 2002
> +++ tramp.el	Wed Sep 25 16:03:19 2002
> @@ -4331,13 +4331,14 @@
>  
>  (defun tramp-action-password (p multi-method method user host)
>    "Query the user for a password."
> +  (let ((pw-prompt (match-string 0)))
>    (when (tramp-method-out-of-band-p multi-method method user host)
>      (kill-process (get-buffer-process (current-buffer)))
>      (error (concat "Out of band method `%s' not applicable "
>  		   "for remote shell asking for a password")
>  	   method))
>    (tramp-message 9 "Sending password")
> -  (tramp-enter-password p (match-string 0)))
> +  (tramp-enter-password p pw-prompt)))
>  
>  (defun tramp-action-succeed (p multi-method method user host)
>    "Signal success in finding shell prompt."
> 
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Re: Tramp

[Kai Großjohann]

Roger Mason <rmason@sparky2.esd.mun.ca> writes:

> That fixed it.  Thanks.

I will put it in the next version of Tramp.

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Tramp

[Roger Mason]

Hello,

I put (setq tramp-default-method "telnet") in my .emacs file.  Now, when I
try to contact a remote machine this error is returned:

 "Args out of range: 0,0".

If I try again, I get
 
"File not found and directory write-protected"

I assume something is still not configured correctly.
   
Thanks for any help.
 
Roger Mason

Re: How to make emacs auto-recognize utf-8 encoded files upon visiting

[Charles Muller]

Miles Bader asked:

>I'm sure, but saying `download an entirely new version of emacs' is a
>rather heavyweight solution.

As I understand it, it is not an entirely new version, in the sense that it
does not replace the basic program files for Emacs itself. But it supplies
its own version of Mule-UCS, and everything concerned with doing
XML/HTML/XSLT in international environments.

> If they've hacked emacs to do a better job of this, how did they do it?
> Did they ever try to submit their changes back to emacs?

I am not a member of the TEI Consortium, so I can't answer this. Certainly,
all the source code for what they've done is readily and openly available
for anyone interested. 

All I know is that before I began to use this package, when doing mail in
Emacs (21.2), there was never any automatic recognition of any kinds of
non-Western encoding. Now it recognizes Japanese, Korean, Chinese, and
whatever, whether these be in the local encoding (JIS, Big5, etc.) or
Unicode, without me having to do "prefer-coding-system" or anything like
that. As a person working in several languages, Emacs would be of very
little use to me without this.

Chuck

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Digital Dictionary of Buddhism and CJKV-English Dictionary 
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tramp

[Roger Mason]

Hi,

I downloaded tramp-2.0.22 and installed it.  I am trying to get it
configured. For now I have to use telnet as the default connection method,
so I executed

(setq tramp-default-method "tm") in the scratch buffer and it returned

"tm"

When I try to get a file from a my home dir on a remote machine:

/fred.here.there.everywhere:~/.emacs

I get 

Method 'tm' didn't specify a connection function in the mini-buffer.

Obviously I missed something in the configuration.  Can anyone help?

Thanks,

Roger Mason
emacs 21.1