RE: Better buffer menu?

RE: Better buffer menu?

[Bingham, Jay]

The variable that Kai is referring to is mouse-buffer-menu-mode-mult and as he stated it applies only to the mouse buffer menu i.e. the menu that you get when you do C-mouse-1.  I have mine set to 2.  I don't think that there is a similar variable for the buffer menu on the menu bar.

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 -----Original Message-----
From: 	Kai Großjohann [mailto:Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE] 
Sent:	Friday, September 06, 2002 6:26 AM
To:	help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject:	Re: Better buffer menu?

henrik.jonsson@se.transport.bombardier.com (Henrik Jönsson) writes:

> I have recently switched from XEmacs to Gnu Emacs. I am very happy
> with this so far. However, I don't like the buffer menu (in the GUI
> menu). E.g. the buffer names is not left centered. The XEmacs is
> better. It sorts the buffers according to the type.

The Emacs mouse buffer menu automatically groups buffers when you
have many of them.  There is also a variable that says what "many"
means, but I forgot the name.

Maybe buffers-menu-max-size, maybe mouse-buffer-menu-maxlen?

kai
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Re: Better buffer menu?

[Kai Großjohann]

"Bingham, Jay" <Jay.Bingham@hp.com> writes:

> The variable that Kai is referring to is mouse-buffer-menu-mode-mult
> and as he stated it applies only to the mouse buffer menu i.e. the
> menu that you get when you do C-mouse-1.  I have mine set to 2.  I
> don't think that there is a similar variable for the buffer menu on
> the menu bar.

Actually, I thought it'd also have effect on the menubar thing.
Amazing that it doesn't.

Thanks for helping out with the variable name.

After trying this out, may I suggest msb.el, like another poster
did.  That might do the trick better.  It makes the C-down-mouse-1
menu and the menubar menu look alike, and it can be configured to
just as you like.

kai
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Re: Better buffer menu?

[Miles Bader]

Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> Actually, I thought it'd also have effect on the menubar thing.
> Amazing that it doesn't.

Yeah, the whole buffers-menu situation is kind of screwed up in emacs;
too many separate implementations of the same thing not sharing any
behavior.

It's been one of those things I've wanted to clean up, but of course,
`so little tyme'...

> After trying this out, may I suggest msb.el, like another poster
> did.  That might do the trick better.  It makes the C-down-mouse-1
> menu and the menubar menu look alike, and it can be configured to
> just as you like.

msb-mode seems to do what the original poster wanted though.

Probably the various modes ought to be merged to some degree.  For
instance, I added some control variables like `buffers-menu-show-status'
to the normal buffers-menu code which I'd like msb-mode to pay attention
to as well.  In fact, I think it would be cleaner to have the
distinction of `grouped by type' etc. an orthogonal attribute of the
normal buffers-menu, rather than a separate mode (the current
implementation is presumably because msb-mode was originall distributed
separately from emacs).

-Miles
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Re: Better buffer menu?

[Klaus Berndl]

On Fri, 6 Sep 2002, Jay Bingham wrote:



>  The variable that Kai is referring to is mouse-buffer-menu-mode-mult and as
>  he stated it applies only to the mouse buffer menu i.e. the menu that you
>  get when you do C-mouse-1. I have mine set to 2. I don't think that there
>  is a similar variable for the buffer menu on the menu bar.

like previous mentioned, msb.el does all what you need.

Klaus

>  
>  -_ J_) C_)ingham . HP - NonStop Austin Software & Services - Software
>  Product Assurance . Austin, TX . Language is the apparel in which your
>  thoughts parade in public. . Never clothe them in vulgar and shoddy attire.
>  -Dr. George W. Crane-
>  
>   -----Original Message-----
>  From: 	Kai Großjohann [mailto:Kai.Grossjohann@CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE] 
>  Sent:	Friday, September 06, 2002 6:26 AM
>  To:	help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
>  Subject:	Re: Better buffer menu?
>  
>  henrik.jonsson@se.transport.bombardier.com (Henrik Jönsson) writes:
>  
> > I have recently switched from XEmacs to Gnu Emacs. I am very happy
> > with this so far. However, I don't like the buffer menu (in the GUI
> > menu). E.g. the buffer names is not left centered. The XEmacs is
> > better. It sorts the buffers according to the type.
>  
>  The Emacs mouse buffer menu automatically groups buffers when you
>  have many of them.  There is also a variable that says what "many"
>  means, but I forgot the name.
>  
>  Maybe buffers-menu-max-size, maybe mouse-buffer-menu-maxlen?
>  
>  kai

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Better buffer menu?

[Henrik Jönsson]

I have recently switched from XEmacs to Gnu Emacs. I am very happy
with this so far. However, I don't like the buffer menu (in the GUI
menu). E.g. the buffer names is not left centered. The XEmacs is
better. It sorts the buffers according to the type.

Is it possible to this in Gnu Emacs?

/henrik

Re: Better buffer menu?

[Klaus Berndl]

On 6 Sep 2002, Henrik Jönsson wrote:



>  I have recently switched from XEmacs to Gnu Emacs. I am very happy
>  with this so far. However, I don't like the buffer menu (in the GUI
>  menu). E.g. the buffer names is not left centered. The XEmacs is
>  better. It sorts the buffers according to the type.
>  
>  Is it possible to this in Gnu Emacs?

use msb.el. For example add

,----
| (require 'msb)
| (msb-mode 1)
| (global-set-key [C-down-mouse-1] 'msb)
`----

to your .emacs or site-start.el file.

Optional: With the variable *msb-menu-cond* you can add more rules how to
split your buffers.

Ciao,
Klaus

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Re: Better buffer menu?

[Henrik Jönsson]

>
>use msb.el. For example add
>

Great! Exactly what I needed. Thanks!

/henrik

Re: Better buffer menu?

[Jeff Rancier]

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Is msb.el better than bs.el?

"Klaus Berndl" <Klaus.Berndl@sdm.de> wrote in message
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> On 6 Sep 2002, Henrik Jönsson wrote:
>
>
>
> >  I have recently switched from XEmacs to Gnu Emacs. I am very happy
> >  with this so far. However, I don't like the buffer menu (in the GUI
> >  menu). E.g. the buffer names is not left centered. The XEmacs is
> >  better. It sorts the buffers according to the type.
> >
> >  Is it possible to this in Gnu Emacs?
>
> use msb.el. For example add
>
> ,----
> | (require 'msb)
> | (msb-mode 1)
> | (global-set-key [C-down-mouse-1] 'msb)
> `----
>
> to your .emacs or site-start.el file.
>
> Optional: With the variable *msb-menu-cond* you can add more rules how to
> split your buffers.
>
> Ciao,
> Klaus
>
> --
> Klaus Berndl mailto: klaus.berndl@sdm.de
> sd&m AG http://www.sdm.de
> software design & management
> Thomas-Dehler-Str. 27, 81737 München, Germany
> Tel +49 89 63812-392, Fax -220

Re: Better buffer menu?

[Kai Großjohann]

"Jeff Rancier" <jeff.rancier@softechnics.com> writes:

> Is msb.el better than bs.el?

You are comparing apples with oranges.  msb.el give you a popup menu
when you hit C-mouse-1.  bs.el gives you a buffer.

Do you prefer buffers or popup menus?

kai
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Re: Better buffer menu?

[Kai Großjohann]

henrik.jonsson@se.transport.bombardier.com (Henrik Jönsson) writes:

> I have recently switched from XEmacs to Gnu Emacs. I am very happy
> with this so far. However, I don't like the buffer menu (in the GUI
> menu). E.g. the buffer names is not left centered. The XEmacs is
> better. It sorts the buffers according to the type.

The Emacs mouse buffer menu automatically groups buffers when you
have many of them.  There is also a variable that says what "many"
means, but I forgot the name.

Maybe buffers-menu-max-size, maybe mouse-buffer-menu-maxlen?

kai
-- 
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