From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Reiner Steib Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: umlauts (8bit characters) input Date: Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:07:17 +0100 Organization: Dept. of Theoretical Physics, University of Ulm Message-ID: References: Reply-To: Reiner Steib NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1107264130 13581 80.91.229.2 (1 Feb 2005 13:22:10 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 1 Feb 2005 13:22:10 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Feb 01 14:22:09 2005 Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Cvxyi-0005PW-4V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 14:22:00 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1CvyBd-0001Ws-AR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 01 Feb 2005 08:35:21 -0500 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Face: /U7=m^"/-Dn61mAl{g9e3>\G5Tp,oEX|V)g2I1hBk\ML; )7A?6cmB-y7y?'NA^J<=oz7syB =(McAwIHgLX!.B?R3X}98d@?>CrT094KLWh]WU4gDpnL/")MS(XoQTv`Oq225uL>+; CpPXo$N5e>N> $tPd-gbB^F{gQS#1ase]XO~D4p4M"3+F-7~u]dy3I?Pb8RO*H-EFeWDUf?Rf, d]pv\Jvh2Cht!A=im yKAS2Z%Ao^;}W/qzMvMm Mail-Copies-To: nobody User-Agent: Gnus/5.11 (Gnus v5.11) Emacs/21.3.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:TQgmdoTlKJwtN4mHuuHaOJ/spAs= Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de Original-X-Trace: news.uni-ulm.de 1107264034 134.60.10.123 (1 Feb 2005 14:20:34 +0100) Original-Lines: 44 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!syros.belnet.be!news.belnet.be!feed.news.tiscali.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!inka.de!rz.uni-karlsruhe.de!news.uni-ulm.de!bridgekeeper.physik.uni-ulm.de!not-for-mail Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:128301 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org X-MailScanner-To: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:23809 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:23809 Hendrik Sattler wrote: > 8bit characters work fine everywhere(bash, mcedit, etc) except with emacs. > When I press 'ü', it asks me for "Shell command on region:", 'ö' goes to > "beginning of buffer" and 'ä' does nothing. > The editing is done in KDE's konsole, locale is set to > LANG=de_DE@euro > LC_CTYPE="de_DE@euro" [...] > LC_ALL= [...] > Yes, it is a no-windows instance inside KDE's konsole That is an important information that was missing in your previous messages. Does it help to set... (set-keyboard-coding-system 'iso-8859-15) ... in your ~/.emacs file? (You shouldn't need any other settings if the locale is setup correctly.) > because the X emacs interface is just sooo ugly. Konsole does not > strip of the 8th bit, as EVERYTHING els is working just fine (bash, > mcedit, even VI!). The absolutly only exception is emacs. > And yes, if I change my locale to UTF-8, emacs shall just follow case > without me having to edit the whole .emacs file again. Emacs does initialize the setting from the locale. Initialization of `keyboard-coding-system' works correctly in the X version without any other settings. I'm not sure why `set-keyboard-coding-system' is required in Emacs 21.3 when using the no-window mode (I assume you use 21.3; you didn't mention your Emacs version). In the next (not yet released) version of Emacs, the initialization works fine, both with and without X, AFAICS. Bye, Reiner. -- ,,, (o o) ---ooO-(_)-Ooo--- | PGP key available | http://rsteib.home.pages.de/