From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Klaus Berndl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: "Easy" Windows Emacs Date: 05 Jun 2005 15:04:01 +0200 Organization: "sd&m AG, Muenchen, Germany" Message-ID: References: <1117898093.081644.298490@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87br6m86c6.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <1117903695.355175.316140@g43g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87r7fh7skr.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> <1117920410.651627.276900@g14g2000cwa.googlegroups.com> <87mzq574sz.fsf@thalassa.informatimago.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1117976664 27413 80.91.229.2 (5 Jun 2005 13:04:24 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:04:24 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sun Jun 05 15:04:14 2005 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by ciao.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DeunH-00063v-6o for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 15:03:59 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1DeutN-0000Ec-Vt for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sun, 05 Jun 2005 09:10:18 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!lnewsoutpeer00.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!bnewsinpeer00.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!news.sdm.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 54 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: callin27.muc.sdm.de Original-X-Trace: news.sdm.de 1117976642 18425 195.125.139.27 (5 Jun 2005 13:04:02 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.sdm.de Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:04:02 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:131769 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:27233 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:27233 On Sun, 05 Jun 2005, Pascal Bourguignon wrote: > "Shug Boabby" writes: > >> Ok, but emacs add-on don't need a different distribution: just put the > >> *.el in /usr/local/share/emacs/site-li sp/ or even in ~/emacs/ > >> You don't need an administrator to do it, a mere _emacs_ user can do > >> that. > > > > the spell checker needs aspell/ispell/spell to be installed. last time > > i checked, Mr Gates wasn't distributing that with XP. > > > > also, AucTeX isn't as simple as putting some .el files into a folder... > > its a configure/make install procedure. that needs a POSIX shell. > > > > so... my request is really not as stupid as you make it out to be! > > > > (technical note... on WINDOWS, not UNIX-like systems, so no /usr/local. > > but i could instruct her to install .el files the drag and drop way if > > the adons really were just a single .el file.) > > Of course, the first thing I do when I have to use MS-Windows, is to > install cygwin. That's why I did not see the problem. Go fetch it: > http://www.cygwin.com/ > > And of course, ispell is included in cygwin, and AucTeX is included > in the xemacs-sumo package. The OP had ask for a distro with GNU Emacs not with XEmacs. Of course all these steps are not really complicated but first of all you have to know which steps should be done (e.g. installing cygwin or something equivalent). It's not impossible for newbie to do these things but i can at least not blame the OP if he ask for a complete out-of-the-box-working distro including the editor itself and all other stuff necessary to write TeX-files in a comfortable manner. And at least with GNU Emacs there is no such distro - at least AFAIK. BTW: This discussion leads for me to the old topic concerning the lack of a package-system of GNU-Emacs - IMHO one of the most disadvantages of GNU compared to XEmacs - surely, that one of XEmacs is not perfect (really not ;-) but after all it *IS* a package-system which can make live easier - at least for the users and for the newbies - maybe not for the package-programmers ;-) But a well defined package-interface could also have a lot of advantages for the package-programmer...but now I'm going really off topic i see... ;-) Ciao, Klaus -- Klaus Berndl mailto: klaus.berndl@sdm.de sd&m AG http://www.sdm.de software design & management Carl-Wery-Str. 42, 81739 Muenchen, Germany Tel +49 89 63812-392, Fax -220