From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How old are Emacs users? Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:17:33 +0300 Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1177395474 32224 80.91.229.12 (24 Apr 2007 06:17:54 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 06:17:54 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Tue Apr 24 08:17:52 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1HgELY-0006O7-A5 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 08:17:52 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HgER1-0001ha-QA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:23:31 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HgEQm-0001eG-E0 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:23:16 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1HgEQk-0001cG-Pp for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:23:15 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1HgEQk-0001cD-MQ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:23:14 -0400 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1HgELG-00052F-3i for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 24 Apr 2007 02:17:34 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 (IGLD-80-230-162-102.inter.net.il [80.230.162.102]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id GPA84956 (AUTH halo1); Tue, 24 Apr 2007 09:17:34 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: (message from 30ish emacs user on Tue, 24 Apr 2007 05:07:18 +0000 (UTC)) X-detected-kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:43042 Archived-At: > From: 30ish emacs user > Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 05:07:18 +0000 (UTC) > > I suppose most of the youngest generation were exposed to some kind of > graphical editor like Visual Studio or Eclipse and they find Emacs > alien (those who don't understand...) after using the former. ??? What's not graphical about Emacs? Are you familiar with Speedbar, Customize, and gdb-ui, to name just a few very graphical features? Modern Emacs has menus, scroll bars, tool-bar buttons, tooltips (a.k.a. balloon help), and all the other attributes of a GUI program.