From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs documentation sources Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:19:09 +0200 Message-ID: References: <711a73df0709260104l97cb41ft5fee3a882cef05c9@mail.gmail.com> <85ve9x431f.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <85y7eseiom.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <858x6reucb.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> <851wcibcz2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1191082795 7692 80.91.229.12 (29 Sep 2007 16:19:55 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 16:19:55 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Sat Sep 29 18:19:51 2007 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1Ibf2h-0003W8-9g for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:19:47 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ibf2d-0000g7-KK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:19:43 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ibf2M-0000eT-2q for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:19:26 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1Ibf2J-0000d7-7b for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:19:25 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1Ibf2J-0000d2-3a for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:19:23 -0400 Original-Received: from nitzan.inter.net.il ([213.8.233.22]) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1Ibf2I-0006QJ-Lq for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 29 Sep 2007 12:19:22 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([81.5.36.172]) by nitzan.inter.net.il (MOS 3.7.3a-GA) with ESMTP id HXL42646 (AUTH halo1); Sat, 29 Sep 2007 18:16:27 +0200 (IST) In-reply-to: <851wcibcz2.fsf@lola.goethe.zz> (message from David Kastrup on Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:13:21 +0200) X-Detected-Kernel: FreeBSD 4.7-5.2 (or MacOS X 10.2-10.4) (2) X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:47976 Archived-At: > From: David Kastrup > Date: Sat, 29 Sep 2007 01:13:21 +0200 > > But DOC strings are not even loaded _until_ you look at > them explicitly. You seem to forget about the `apropos-*' commands (which were the reason for this thread in the first place). > So your claim that DOC strings have to be kept terse for memory > conversation reasons is plain and unadulterated nonsense. And this > utterly silly smokescreen followup thread (where you, quite prudently, > snip out the original _relevant_ wrong claim of yours time and again > in order to argue some less embarrassing points) does not change that. I admire your argument culture and style, David. > Again, here is your quote which started this: > > Doc strings not always target newbies, because they cannot be too > wordy (due to considerations of memory footprint of the running > Emacs). > > Please don't omit this quote if you feel you want to continue to > pretend defending it. Done.