From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Richard Riley Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Emacs users a dying breed? Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:21:27 +0200 Organization: aich tea tea pea dicky riley dot net Message-ID: References: <9809cd1a-9086-4022-af79-732fb6149f20@q5g2000pba.googlegroups.com> <87mx3vzqd7.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <87ipejzjce.fsf@friendface.i-did-not-set--mail-host-address--so-tickle-me> <4FE45F11.2060105@easy-emacs.de> Reply-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org NNTP-Posting-Host: plane.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: dough.gmane.org 1340367737 11297 80.91.229.3 (22 Jun 2012 12:22:17 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2012 12:22:17 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Jun 22 14:22:13 2012 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([208.118.235.17]) by plane.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Si2sI-00034c-5r for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:22:06 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57009 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Si2sI-0007xx-4E for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:22:06 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([208.118.235.92]:49843) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Si2s9-0007xg-KK for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:22:02 -0400 Original-Received: from Debian-exim by eggs.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Si2s3-00018V-B5 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:21:57 -0400 Original-Received: from plane.gmane.org ([80.91.229.3]:52330) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.71) (envelope-from ) id 1Si2s3-00018B-45 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 08:21:51 -0400 Original-Received: from list by plane.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1Si2rx-0002UD-QU for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:21:45 +0200 Original-Received: from g225216121.adsl.alicedsl.de ([92.225.216.121]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:21:45 +0200 Original-Received: from rileyrg by g225216121.adsl.alicedsl.de with local (Gmexim 0.1 (Debian)) id 1AlnuQ-0007hv-00 for ; Fri, 22 Jun 2012 14:21:45 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ Mail-Followup-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-Lines: 29 Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@dough.gmane.org X-Gmane-NNTP-Posting-Host: g225216121.adsl.alicedsl.de X-Message-Smtp-Method: smtp smtp.gmail.com 587 rileyrg Mail-Copies-To: never User-Agent: Gnus/5.130006 (Ma Gnus v0.6) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) Cancel-Lock: sha1:3u7k/xk0qduMrCa9kqefEUeeXcQ= X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: Genre and OS details not recognized. X-Received-From: 80.91.229.3 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.14 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:85368 Archived-At: Andreas Röhler writes: > Am 22.06.2012 13:17, schrieb Jeremiah Dodds: >> Tom writes: >> >>> Jeremiah Dodds gmail.com> writes: >>>> >>>> I think it's more like "attracting more users is less of a priority than >>>> appealing to what others are used to", there's plenty of improvement and >>>> development of Emacs going on. >>>> >>> >>> Yes, but if we take Google Trends as an indicator interest in Emacs >>> is decreasing: >>> >>> http://www.google.com/trends/?q=emacs >>> >>> Shouldn't it be a concern? Shouldn't those kinds of improvements >>> be given more priority which can increase the interest in Emacs? >> >> No, why should Emacs and users and developers of Emacs be concerned with >> increasing the interest in Emacs? [ ... ] > > Because it might exists reasons for the decline, which are to discuss before it's to late. > IMO it is late already... Agreed. Some basic tidying and emacs would/might get a new lease of life. mixed mode, java, auto completion, some tutorial on how to actually use cedet without a degree in compiler design :)