From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: David Masterson Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Software/HD ecology Date: 18 Dec 2002 16:20:19 -0800 Organization: Posted via Supernews, http://www.supernews.com Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <041220020952400758%ajanta@no.spam> <56cfb0e3.0212041458.5eab182a@posting.google.com> <061220020416350201%ajanta@no.spam> <071220021155280606%ajanta@no.spam> <5ld6obj8il.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <111220021253524057%ajanta@no.spam> <5l65u0i8zj.fsf@rum.cs.yale.edu> <111220022053507599%ajanta@no.spam> <121220021324043990%ajanta@no.spam> <171220021132381961%ajanta@no.spam> <841y4f3eu2.fsf@lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1040257509 22081 80.91.224.249 (19 Dec 2002 00:25:09 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Thu, 19 Dec 2002 00:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 18OoUu-0005k0-00 for ; Thu, 19 Dec 2002 01:25:08 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10.13) id 18OoV9-000098-02 for gnu-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 18 Dec 2002 19:25:23 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!newsfeed.berkeley.edu!news-hog.berkeley.edu!ucberkeley!news.maxwell.syr.edu!sn-xit-03!sn-xit-06!sn-post-01!supernews.com!corp.supernews.com!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.1 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@supernews.com Original-Lines: 36 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:108277 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1b5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Archive: List-Unsubscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+gnu-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:4806 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:4806 >>>>> Kai Großjohann writes: > David Masterson writes: >> That's not a solution. For instance, if a package does not come in >> RPM form, then the RPM package manager is not a solution for me. > It seems that the "checkinstall" tool might help. Doing > "checkinstall make install" will do whatever "make install" does and > create an RPM from it. (Actually, it asks you whether you want > *.deb or *.rpm or a Slackware package.) Nah. That's really for the O/S distributions to do (or anyone who's attempting to create a "package"). I'm merely suggesting two things: 1. If a program can do a "make install", it should have a "make uninstall" to go with it. 2. To allow for source removal, "make install" should install an uninstaller (like this: "make -n uninstall > uninstaller; install uninstaller"). I've worked on UNIX distributions that don't use things like RPM, DEB, and so on. That was okay as all I wanted to do was download the program, configure it, install it, and remove the excess (source). At some point in the future, I (or my successor) might want to remove the installed program. That's where having an uninstaller in #2 to unambiguously list what needs removing comes in. This is probably more of a GNU tools (autoconf/automake) issue, but GNU Emacs has in the past used a highly hacked configure tool (does it still?), so it might apply here as well. -- David Masterson David DOT Masterson AT synopsys DOT com Sr. R&D Engineer Synopsys, Inc. Software Engineering Sunnyvale, CA