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Niels Freimann <nfreimann@firemail.de> writes:

> On Tuesday 06 May 2003 01:08, Barry Margolin wrote:
> 
> > t's almost certainly ITS EMACS, which runs on PDP-10/20 machines running ITS 
> > or TOPS-20.  
> 
> No, it cant be true. ITS editor macros was written entirely in TECO and 
> not Lisp. It was ported to Tenex and TOPS-20 operating systems by Stallman 
> and McMahon. Therefore  both the ITS and the TOPS-20 emacsens were TECO , 
> and not maclisp (multics) or moclisp (unix), emacsens. What the posters found
> on the pdp-10 emulator was not Richards ITS emacs. ITS was an experimental
> OS of the MIT written by hackers. 

It was Richard Stallman's pdp-emacs (in TECO) running on ITS. The
whole point of having a pdp-10 emulator is to run ITS :) (some people
run twenex, I guess...)

Bijan