From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Oliver Scholz Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: charset question (Windows-1251 and UTF-8 CJK) Date: Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:28:35 +0200 Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1097076826 21707 80.91.229.6 (6 Oct 2004 15:33:46 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2004 15:33:46 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Oct 06 17:33:30 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1CFDnF-0003lm-00 for ; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 17:33:29 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.33) id 1CFDtw-0004zS-Hy for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 06 Oct 2004 11:40:24 -0400 Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help X-Attribution: os X-Face: "HgH2sgK|bfH$; PiOJI6|qUCf.ve<51_Od(%ynHr?=>znn#~#oS>",F%B8&\vus),2AsPYb -n>PgddtGEn}s7kH?7kH{P_~vu?]OvVN^qD(L)>G^gDCl(U9n{:d>'DkilN!_K"eNzjrtI4Ya6; Td% IZGMbJ{lawG+'J>QXPZD&TwWU@^~A}f^zAb[Ru;CT(UA]c& User-Agent: Gnus/5.1006 (Gnus v5.10.6) Emacs/21.3.50 (windows-nt) Cancel-Lock: sha1:+x548XlL6SBQZPQer/0PmAMk4kM= Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 84.57.47.51 Original-X-Trace: 6 Oct 2004 17:28:37 +0200, 84.57.47.51 Original-Lines: 45 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@arcor-ip.de Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!newsfeed.icl.net!newsfeed.freenet.de!newsfeed00.sul.t-online.de!newsfeed01.sul.t-online.de!t-online.de!newsfeed.arcor-ip.de!news.arcor-ip.de!84.57.47.51 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:125730 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:21091 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:21091 Gernot Hassenpflug writes: [...] > - Windows-1251 news articles or mail always appears as character > codes, and I could not find any coding that seems to make it work. > > I am confused because I have read that some mail readers (such as mew) > support this charset, yet I cannnot find out how to make it work. Does > gnus support this charset independently of emacs, and where can I look > for help? Google "windows-1251 gnus" and similar turned up nothing I > could use. The problems you mention are related to Emacs rather than Gnus. Emacs from the current CVS provides `windows-1251' by default. For the released Emacs 21.3 you can put something like this into your .emacs: (codepage-setup 1251) Then you get a coding-system named `cp1251'. As I understand it, this is just meant as another name for `windows-1251'. I have no idea, though, how complete it is. > - UTF-8 with CJK characters does not seem to work. > > I read in google that UTF-8 is still only partially supported by > Emacs, so it seems that receiving mail and news in UTF-8 (CJK) is not > possible for now. Mozilla does fine on this front though. > > Are these issues resolved (i.e. reduced to a settings problem) or are > they still current? (I need to find a work-around) [...] Not being able to read any of the involved scripts, I have never paid much attention to CJK issues. I think that this is settled in the current CVS. You might want to confirm this before you check it out. It might be---I honestly just don't know---that you can get CJK with UTF-8 for Emacs 21.3 by installing mule-ucs. I would not recommend it, though. I think this path down lies madness; at least that's my impression from coding system quirks discussed in this newsgroup. Oliver -- 15 Vendémiaire an 213 de la Révolution Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!