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From: Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up?
Date: Wed, 08 Oct 2003 10:48:42 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <uisn0ktcl.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: jwvbrss3jhd.fsf-monnier+gnu.emacs.help@vor.iro.umontreal.ca

Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca> writes:

>> I'm still working on telepathically controlling the machine.  It is
>> surprisingly difficult.
>
> Huh?  It should work without even thinking about it.
> Are you sure you did the M-x telepathy-server ?
[...]

As for the telepathy-UI new in the CVS version, I am not sure whether
it is worth the trouble. Last time I tried it, I found myself
constantly misthinking. It only works for me if I concentrate hard
enough not to think about anything “wrong”. But as soon as I let my
thoughts a little bit wander ... And even if I concentrate very hard,
I don't have the necessary fine control yet. In general I have to use
undo most of the time.

I think this is a general problem with this sort of UI. It only works
right, when you learn to use your editor as some sort of
extra-limb. Like a very complex hand, for example. Not that this would
be a bad idea, but---well, it took a very long time for all of us to
learn to use our hands. And I am not sure whether I am not simply too
old to learn to use a new one.

So IMO the usual UI via the keyboard is much superior. The thought
“How was that in the manual again?”, for instance, almost instantly
makes my fingers hitting `C-h i'. Other key combos are similar. This
is as close as we can come to an telepathic interface without the
overhead to learn to use an extra limb.

    Oliver
-- 
17 Vendémiaire an 212 de la Révolution
Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-10-08  8:48 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 49+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-10-01  8:03 C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? Barman Brakjoller
2003-10-01  8:43 ` Noufal Ibrahim
2003-10-01 10:16 ` David Kastrup
2003-10-01 17:02   ` Daniel B.
     [not found]   ` <mailman.949.1065027827.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-01 17:39     ` David Kastrup
2003-10-02 16:16       ` Hans-Christoph Wirth
2003-10-07 18:33         ` David Steuber
2003-10-03 10:31       ` Daniel B.
2003-10-08 23:52       ` Jim Janney
2003-10-09 18:50         ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-16 21:07       ` Kai Grossjohann
2003-10-07 18:29     ` David Steuber
2003-10-09 17:11       ` Daniel B.
     [not found]       ` <mailman.1425.1065719518.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-09 19:42         ` David Steuber
2003-11-03  2:34       ` David Combs
2003-10-01 12:00 ` Arjan Bos
2003-10-01 15:48   ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-02 14:21     ` Arjan Bos
2003-10-06 17:30   ` Gareth Rees
2003-10-01 12:34 ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-01 12:48   ` Jay Belanger
2003-10-07 18:40     ` David Steuber
2003-10-07 20:02       ` Stefan Monnier
2003-10-07 21:11         ` David Kastrup
2003-10-08  8:48         ` Oliver Scholz [this message]
2003-10-08 10:21           ` Eli Zaretskii
     [not found]           ` <mailman.1313.1065608391.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-08 10:27             ` David Kastrup
2003-10-08 15:47               ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-09 18:16                 ` C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? - OT now Daniel B.
     [not found]                 ` <mailman.1429.1065723394.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-09 19:03                   ` Björn Lindström
2003-10-09 20:39                 ` C-f, C-b, C-n and C-p or right, left, down, up? lawrence mitchell
2003-10-09 18:15           ` Daniel B.
2003-10-01 12:36 ` Jim Ottaway
2003-10-01 15:07 ` Kevin Rodgers
2003-10-01 16:43 ` Daniel B.
2003-10-02 13:59   ` Arthur Davis
     [not found] ` <mailman.985.1065065051.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-02  8:40   ` Matthias Meulien
2003-10-03 10:31     ` Daniel B.
     [not found]     ` <mailman.1056.1065177296.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-16 21:03       ` Kai Grossjohann
2003-10-16 21:13         ` lawrence mitchell
2003-10-06 14:21   ` Sven Utcke
2003-10-06 15:35     ` Barry Margolin
2003-10-07 16:29       ` Hans-Christoph Wirth
2003-10-07 21:11         ` David Kastrup
2003-10-09 15:17           ` Per Abrahamsen
2003-10-09 17:08     ` Daniel B.
     [not found] <E1A4kP0-00064x-AV@monty-python.gnu.org>
2003-10-02 22:45 ` Joe Corneli
     [not found] ` <mailman.1038.1065134760.21628.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-10-06 14:23   ` Sven Utcke
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-10-16 22:32 Joe Corneli

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