From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Klaus Berndl Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: emacs user group in germany Date: 14 Jan 2004 08:20:56 +0100 Organization: "sd&m AG, Muenchen, Germany" Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <1073913358.9659.11.camel@rechner1.ddorf.de> <20040113012026.7523f7a4@linux.local> <20040113113743.7cc8b1dc.ray@nabuli.de> <20040113194903.3652196f@linux.local> NNTP-Posting-Host: deer.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Trace: sea.gmane.org 1074065668 15559 80.91.224.253 (14 Jan 2004 07:34:28 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@sea.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 07:34:28 +0000 (UTC) Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Wed Jan 14 08:34:25 2004 Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by deer.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 1AgfXl-0001lP-00 for ; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 08:34:25 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.24) id 1AgfUH-0003E5-UN for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Wed, 14 Jan 2004 02:30:49 -0500 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!news.tele.dk!news.tele.dk!small.news.tele.dk!news100.image.dk!fi.sn.net!newsfeed2.fi.sn.net!newsfeed.kabelfoon.nl!195.129.110.21.MISMATCH!bnewsfeed00.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!bnewsinpeer01.bru.ops.eu.uu.net!lnewsinpeer01.lnd.ops.eu.uu.net!emea.uu.net!news.sdm.de!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help Original-Lines: 36 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: sachrang.muc.sdm.de Original-X-Trace: news.sdm.de 1074064856 22436 193.102.182.54 (14 Jan 2004 07:20:56 GMT) Original-X-Complaints-To: usenet@news.sdm.de Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Wed, 14 Jan 2004 07:20:56 +0000 (UTC) User-Agent: Gnus/5.09 (Gnus v5.9.0) Emacs/21.3 Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:120076 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.2 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:16019 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:16019 On Wed, 14 Jan 2004, Raimund Kohl-Fuechsle wrote: > On Tue, 13 Jan 2004 19:49:03 +0100 > Carsten Weinberg wrote: > > > Nikolai Bezroukov explains on hist site that German GNU/Linux users > > mostly use vi. It is very unfortunate that Germans don't like emacs. > > My proposal is that making emacs more popular under Germans should be > > one of the goals of a future German emacs user group. > > I use it and I like it ... and I think a whole bunch of TeXis/LaTeXis do > use it to ... and if it were only because of Auctex, but I honestly There are also Germans who use Emacs not (only for TeX et. al.) but also for programming... some Germans even try to program with elisp to make Emacs (even ;-) better suitable for programming tasks ;-), see http://ecb.sourceforge.net/ I don`t think that a German Emacs newsgroup is necessary for users who use Emacs for programming but for writing TeX/LaTeX it could indeed be helpful - especially for all special aspects of German language (e.g. Umlaute äöüÄÖÜ etc...) and how to deal best with them with TeX/Emacs Klaus > believe if one started using it he will keep with it. But, well, I may > be wrong :-) > > ray -- Klaus Berndl mailto: klaus.berndl@sdm.de sd&m AG http://www.sdm.de software design & management Carl-Wery-Str. 42, 81739 Muenchen, Germany Tel +49 89 63812-392, Fax -220