how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[wang yin]

Hi,

I set my mutt's editor variable to "emacs -nw" :)
But I use the "desktop package". So every time I reply a mail, emacs
will start over again and load ~/.emacs

I have desktop sessions saved with the desktop package.
And loading the session is slow. I don't want these lines to be
executed from time to time when I reply or compose mail:


(load "desktop") 
(desktop-load-default) 
(desktop-read)


But I'm new to Emacs, and I don't know how to tell emacs it's invoked
by mutt. The hint to emacs, I think it that it's file name is
/tmp/mutt-myloginname-date.

Can anyone give an example how to set a conditional? Thanks!


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Wang Yin
DA Lab, Tsinghua University,
100084
Beijing China

Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[David Kastrup]

wang yin <wy@wangyin.com> writes:

> I set my mutt's editor variable to "emacs -nw" :)
> But I use the "desktop package". So every time I reply a mail, emacs
> will start over again and load ~/.emacs

You rather want to look up "emacsclient" in th Emacs manual.

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Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[wang yin]

No. emacsclide will send the buffer to a emacs server. But I don't
want to switch to another window.

Or I misunderstood emacsclient?

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DA Lab, Tsinghua University,
100084
Beijing China

Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[Alan Mackenzie]

David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote on 24 Apr 2003 03:45:44 +0200:
> wang yin <wy@wangyin.com> writes:

>> I set my mutt's editor variable to "emacs -nw" :)
>> But I use the "desktop package". So every time I reply a mail, emacs
>> will start over again and load ~/.emacs

> You rather want to look up "emacsclient" in th Emacs manual.

That's not to say that "emacs --no-desktop" wouldn't be a useful thing.

Particularly when debugging problems which happen at start-up (which I
was doing last night), or when one wants "just" to edit a quick textfile.

In fact, this ability to start quickly is an excellent reason to use vim
or even notepad.

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Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[Robert Marshall]

On Thu, 24 Apr 2003, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> David Kastrup <dak@gnu.org> wrote on 24 Apr 2003 03:45:44 +0200:
>> wang yin <wy@wangyin.com> writes:
> 
>>> I set my mutt's editor variable to "emacs -nw" :) But I use the
>>> "desktop package". So every time I reply a mail, emacs will start
>>> over again and load ~/.emacs
> 
>> You rather want to look up "emacsclient" in th Emacs manual.
> 
> That's not to say that "emacs --no-desktop" wouldn't be a useful
> thing.
> 

True, I have the following for when I want a fast start and I don't
care what I was looking at last session

      ;; some cheating here ....
  (setq desktop-basefilename
	(convert-standard-filename ".emacs.desktop"))

  (if (and (file-exists-p (concat "~/" desktop-basefilename))
	   (yes-or-no-p "Load desktop? "))
      (progn
	(require 'desktop)
        ....
but that may be too much noise for some!

Robert
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It breaks the glass.
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Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[Ehud Karni]

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On 24 Apr 2003 09:04:51 +0800, wang yin <wy@wangyin.com> wrote:
> 
> (load "desktop") 
> (desktop-load-default) 
> (desktop-read)
> 
> Can anyone give an example how to set a conditional? Thanks!

I think the other replies to this post (emacsclient) are good but
there was no direct answer to the question. Here is my proposal:

1. Run the `mutt' command through a script.
2. Add an environment variable MUTT=ON.
3. Wrap your desktop loading in ~/.emcas :
          
    (or (string-equal (or (getenv "MUTT") "-") "ON")
        (progn
           (load "desktop")
           (desktop-load-default)
           (desktop-read)))

Ehud.


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Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[Jiri Pejchal]

"Ehud Karni" <ehud@unix.mvs.co.il> writes:

> > Can anyone give an example how to set a conditional? Thanks!
> 
> I think the other replies to this post (emacsclient) are good but
> there was no direct answer to the question. Here is my proposal:
> 
> 1. Run the `mutt' command through a script.
> 2. Add an environment variable MUTT=ON.
> 3. Wrap your desktop loading in ~/.emcas :
>           
>     (or (string-equal (or (getenv "MUTT") "-") "ON")
>         (progn
>            (load "desktop")
>            (desktop-load-default)
>            (desktop-read)))

Can emacs somehow test the command it was invoked with

emacs -nw /tmp/mutt-...

contains the string mutt?

Jiri Pejchal

Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[Johan Bockgård]

Jiri Pejchal <xpejchal@fi.muni.cz> writes:
>
> Can emacs somehow test the command it was invoked with
>
> emacs -nw /tmp/mutt-...

C-h v command-line-args

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Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[wang yin]

Thank you! This is almost what I want!

Can you tell me how can I use regexp to match the file name that mutt
tell emacs to edit: /tmp/mutt-mylogin-date in elisp?

Then I can use the following elisp(in pseudo-code):

(or (regexp-match ("/tmp/mutt-[^-]+-[0-9-]+", file-name))
        (progn
           (load "desktop")
           (desktop-load-default)
           (desktop-read)))


If I got this done, the problem is solved perfectly :)

So please tell me how to program the predict:
(regexp-match ("/tmp/mutt-[^-]+-[0-9-]+", file-name))


-- 
Wang Yin
DA Lab, Tsinghua University,
100084
Beijing China

Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[Glenn Morris]

wang yin wrote:

> Can you tell me how can I use regexp to match the file name that mutt
> tell emacs to edit: /tmp/mutt-mylogin-date in elisp?
>
> Then I can use the following elisp(in pseudo-code):
>
> (or (regexp-match ("/tmp/mutt-[^-]+-[0-9-]+", file-name))
>         (progn
>            (load "desktop")
>            (desktop-load-default)
>            (desktop-read)))

Do you really need to be that precise about the mutt file name?
Surely "/tmp/mutt-" is good enough...

(unless
    (catch 'found
      (dolist (arg command-line-args)
        (if (string-match "^/tmp/mutt-" arg)
            (throw 'found t))))
  (load "desktop")
  (dekstop-load-default)
  (desktop-read))

Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[Kai Großjohann]

wang yin <wy@wangyin.com> writes:

> Then I can use the following elisp(in pseudo-code):
>
> (or (regexp-match ("/tmp/mutt-[^-]+-[0-9-]+", file-name))
>         (progn
>            (load "desktop")
>            (desktop-load-default)
>            (desktop-read)))

How about another approach entirely?  You start Emacs, then say M-x
server-start RET, and you configure mutt to invoke emacsclient
instead of emacs.

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Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[Michael Herman]

On Sun, Apr 27, 2003 at 01:48:52PM +0200, Kai Großjohann wrote:
>wang yin <wy@wangyin.com> writes:
>
>> Then I can use the following elisp(in pseudo-code):
>>
>> (or (regexp-match ("/tmp/mutt-[^-]+-[0-9-]+", file-name))
>>         (progn
>>            (load "desktop")
>>            (desktop-load-default)
>>            (desktop-read)))
>
>How about another approach entirely?  You start Emacs, then say M-x
>server-start RET, and you configure mutt to invoke emacsclient
>instead of emacs.
>
I've tried that before and the problem is the focus.  I was able to
make emacsclient rise up and take the focus but when finishing the
e-mail and closing the buffer, the focus does not return to the Mutt
window.

Re: how can tell emacs not to load desktop when invoked by mutt?

[Kai Großjohann]

Michael Herman <michael-lists@thehermans.org> writes:

> I've tried that before and the problem is the focus.  I was able to
> make emacsclient rise up and take the focus but when finishing the
> e-mail and closing the buffer, the focus does not return to the Mutt
> window.

Maybe it works if you tell Emacs to open a new frame for each
connection.

You'd want to create the frame from server-switch-hook or
server-visit-hook, and you'd want to delete the frame again from
server-done-hook.
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