From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: main.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Hugo Wolf Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: installing emacs and X11 on OS X Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:41:46 GMT Organization: AT&T Broadband Sender: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org Message-ID: References: <87elah9ril.fsf@bundalo.shootybangbang.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: main.gmane.org X-Trace: main.gmane.org 1035669065 23259 80.91.224.249 (26 Oct 2002 21:51:05 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@main.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:51:05 +0000 (UTC) Return-path: Original-Received: from monty-python.gnu.org ([199.232.76.173]) by main.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 3.35 #1 (Debian)) id 185Ypi-00062m-00 for ; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 23:51:02 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1] helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.10) id 185YlE-0000X4-00; Sat, 26 Oct 2002 17:46:24 -0400 Original-Path: shelby.stanford.edu!newsfeed.stanford.edu!logbridge.uoregon.edu!news.maxwell.syr.edu!wn11feed!wn14feed!wn13feed!worldnet.att.net!204.127.198.203!attbi_feed3!attbi.com!sccrnsc03.POSTED!not-for-mail Original-Newsgroups: gnu.emacs.help User-Agent: slrn/0.9.7.4 (Darwin) Original-Lines: 42 Original-NNTP-Posting-Host: 66.31.41.137 Original-X-Complaints-To: abuse@attbi.com Original-X-Trace: sccrnsc03 1035668506 66.31.41.137 (Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:41:46 GMT) Original-NNTP-Posting-Date: Sat, 26 Oct 2002 21:41:46 GMT Original-Xref: shelby.stanford.edu gnu.emacs.help:106428 Original-To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-admin@gnu.org X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.0.11 Precedence: bulk List-Help: List-Post: List-Subscribe: , List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: Xref: main.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:2978 X-Report-Spam: http://spam.gmane.org/gmane.emacs.help:2978 In article , Eli Zaretskii wrote: >> So tell me: what iyo is the right test for "set variables and add key >> bindings so that the l&f of emacs is a little closer to the standard >> aqua l&f for text processing if and only it's running in aqua"? > > I don't know what is "l&f Look and feel. > and what is "standard aqua" Aqua is something like a combination window-manager/desktop-manager. It's what you're looking at and mousing in when you run osx. > on a Mac), but if you tell what specific functionality does Emacs > have on that system All I want to do is make emacs match the l&f conventions of the gui environment in which it's running. That's all. Emacs "functionality" doesn't enter into it. When it's running in X11, I want the l&f to match X11 conventions as best it can (which it already does by default). When it's running in Aqua, I want the l&f to match Aqua conventions. When it's running in a terminal, there is no gui so I don't want to do anything special. Given that emacs uses the variable window-system to represent the gui environment, it seems perfectly obvious to me that I should use that variable to control these l&f specializations. I don't understand why it's so hard to grasp that the gui environment itself, which emacs represents in the variable window-system, could be _the_ relevant feature for a certain set of modifications.