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From: Oliver Scholz <alkibiades@gmx.de>
Subject: Re: Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken?
Date: Tue, 06 May 2003 13:05:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <u8ytke3n8.fsf@ID-87814.user.dfncis.de> (raw)
In-Reply-To: 39d9c156.0305051352.5a484e93@posting.google.com

bk_usenet@yahoo.co.uk (BK) writes:

> Benjamin Riefenstahl <Benjamin.Riefenstahl@epost.de> wrote ...
>
>> I understand "crippleware" as an insult without any meaning when
>> applied to Emacs, but you hopefully didn't mean it that way.
>
> Crippleware is software that has things left out on purpose which
> other versions of the same software have, whether for marketing
> reasons or because the developers haven't had the time yet to
> implement them doesn't really matter.

It does, since the term "crippleware" refers to the intention, as you
say, and the intention is entirely different. Not using Mac OS I
don't have an idea whether the particular Emacs version you have is
not fully ported to Mac OS or whether your installation is simply
broken. But if the former, it is called "alpha version" or
"pre-release" in the free software world. ("free" as in "free speech"
not as in "free beer").

[...]
>> OTOH if you really don't like it and don't want or can't spend the
>> time to work it out, you are free, go ahead, get something else, there
>> are a number of capable editors for MacOSX around, free and
>> commercial.
>
> See, I give a damn about that excuse for an editor.
[...]
> Emacs is a road block. 
[...]
> As far as I am concerned, I probably won't touch Emacs with a
> barchpole for quite some time. But I have promised to write a section
> for the ILISP user guide and I intend to keep that promise.
[...]

I guess, if you explain your attitude towards Emacs to the people to
whom you gave your promise, they will kindly release you from it.

    Oliver
-- 
17 Floréal an 211 de la Révolution
Liberté, Egalité, Fraternité!

  parent reply	other threads:[~2003-05-06 11:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 70+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2003-05-05  6:00 Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? BK
2003-05-05 10:44 ` Piet van Oostrum
2003-05-05 20:03   ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06  2:39     ` BK
2003-05-05 22:16   ` BK
2003-05-06 13:49     ` Piet van Oostrum
2003-05-07 15:09       ` BK
2003-05-05 10:45 ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-05 21:52   ` BK
2003-05-05 22:50     ` Niels Freimann
2003-05-06 11:05     ` Oliver Scholz [this message]
2003-05-07 18:02     ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-07 23:16       ` Emacs on Aqua (non-religious please) BK
2003-05-07 23:20         ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-08 12:07         ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-08 13:24           ` tristero
2003-05-08 14:40             ` Benjamin Riefenstahl
2003-05-05 22:39   ` Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? Henrik Enberg
2003-05-05 22:45     ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06  2:03       ` tristero
2003-05-07 14:51         ` BK
2003-05-07 15:17           ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-07 23:48             ` BK
2003-05-08  2:16               ` David Eppstein
2003-05-08 19:39               ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06  8:33 ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 13:58   ` BK
2003-05-06 14:45     ` Jerry Kindall
2003-05-06 15:16       ` David Kastrup
2003-05-06 15:41       ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-07  2:11         ` Jerry Kindall
2003-05-07 16:15       ` BK
2003-05-07 16:40         ` Phil Stripling
2003-05-07 17:34         ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 15:27     ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 16:07       ` Oliver Scholz
     [not found]       ` <m2issoavgw.fsf@owlbear.local>
2003-05-06 18:01         ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-06 18:28           ` Andrew Choi
2003-05-06 18:57         ` Ajanta
2003-05-06 18:41           ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-06 19:12           ` Phil Stripling
2003-05-07 12:05             ` BK
2003-05-07 12:23               ` David Kastrup
2003-05-07 17:38                 ` BK
2003-05-07 20:04                   ` Gilbert Harman
2003-05-07 11:35           ` BK
2003-05-07 12:09             ` David Kastrup
2003-05-07 21:16               ` Ajanta
2003-05-07 13:41             ` Alan Mackenzie
2003-05-07 19:28               ` BK
2003-05-07 21:39                 ` Ajanta
2003-05-08  1:05                   ` BK
2003-05-08  2:28                     ` Ajanta
2003-05-07 18:54             ` Suggestion to BK Ajanta
2003-05-07 11:01       ` Is Emacs on Aqua crippleware or is it just broken? BK
2003-05-07 11:18         ` Phillip Lord
2003-05-07 11:33         ` John Paul Wallington
2003-05-07 19:48           ` BK
2003-05-10 20:00             ` Kai Großjohann
2003-05-07 11:43         ` Eli Zaretskii
2003-05-07 13:27         ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-07 20:04           ` BK
2003-05-08  7:18             ` Oliver Scholz
2003-05-08 19:42               ` Barry Margolin
2003-05-08 21:55                 ` Björn Lindström
     [not found]         ` <mailman.5689.1052308519.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-07 19:49           ` BK
     [not found] <mailman.5694.1052313577.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-07 14:00 ` David Kastrup
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2003-05-07 14:10 niels freimann
     [not found] <mailman.5712.1052338208.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
2003-05-08  1:47 ` BK
2003-05-08  7:50   ` Rainer Joswig

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