Re: spell checking on MS Windows: myspell?

Re: spell checking on MS Windows: myspell?

[Peter Tury]

martin rudalics <rudalics@gmx.at> writes:

> AFAICT only Ispell and Aspell currently provide the pipe mode used by
> Emacs.  Maybe Aspell can work with myspell's dictionaries though.

I think the problem is not with dictionaries but language
rules. However I will check both (i|a)spell -- maybe it will be enough
for me now.

Re: spell checking on MS Windows: myspell?

[martin rudalics]

 > Another relted question: can myspell be used with Emacs smoothly? I
 > saw a project what made myspell and dictionaries especially good for
 > my language (Hungarian), so maybe I will need myspell. As far as I
 > know myspell is part of OpenOfficeXXX so hopefully it is not too hard
 > to get myspell precompiled binaries. What about an Emacs interface? I
 > couldn't found myspell.el. Will ispell.el work with it?

AFAICT only Ispell and Aspell currently provide the pipe mode used by
Emacs.  Maybe Aspell can work with myspell's dictionaries though.

spell checking on MS Windows: myspell?

[Peter Tury]

Hi,

how do you spell check on MS Windows? I googled a bit (also this
newsgroup) but didn't find an obvious solution. It seems for me I
would need a spell checker .exe (ispell.exe?) and an emacs interface
(ispell.el?) for it. The latter is part of my GNU Emacs v22. How to
get the first one?

Another relted question: can myspell be used with Emacs smoothly? I
saw a project what made myspell and dictionaries especially good for
my language (Hungarian), so maybe I will need myspell. As far as I
know myspell is part of OpenOfficeXXX so hopefully it is not too hard
to get myspell precompiled binaries. What about an Emacs interface? I
couldn't found myspell.el. Will ispell.el work with it?

Thanks,
P

Re: spell checking on MS Windows: myspell?

[Tom Rauchenwald]

Peter Tury <tury.peter@gmail.com> writes:

> Hi,
>
> how do you spell check on MS Windows? I googled a bit (also this
> newsgroup) but didn't find an obvious solution. It seems for me I
> would need a spell checker .exe (ispell.exe?) and an emacs interface
> (ispell.el?) for it. The latter is part of my GNU Emacs v22. How to
> get the first one?

You can use aspell <http://aspell.net/win32/> with ispell.el /
flyspell, it worked fine for me on Windows.
Also, check out the wiki-page on Emacswiki:
<http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/InteractiveSpell#toc3>
I don't have my windows-configuration handy at the moment, but IIRC it
wasn't hard to set up.

Tom

Re: spell checking on MS Windows: myspell?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Peter Tury <tury.peter@gmail.com>
> Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2007 12:18:55 GMT
> 
> how do you spell check on MS Windows? I googled a bit (also this
> newsgroup) but didn't find an obvious solution. It seems for me I
> would need a spell checker .exe (ispell.exe?) and an emacs interface
> (ispell.el?) for it. The latter is part of my GNU Emacs v22. How to
> get the first one?

You can find a precompiled Windows binary of Ispell and many
dictionaries here:

   http://www.luziusschneider.com/Speller/English/

> Another relted question: can myspell be used with Emacs smoothly? I
> saw a project what made myspell and dictionaries especially good for
> my language (Hungarian), so maybe I will need myspell.

You probably mean Hunspell (a derfivative of myspell), not myspell.

The above URL includes a Hungarian dictionary.  If that is not good
enough, I suggest to try aspell, as someone else suggested.

> As far as I
> know myspell is part of OpenOfficeXXX so hopefully it is not too hard
> to get myspell precompiled binaries. What about an Emacs interface? I
> couldn't found myspell.el. Will ispell.el work with it?

No, I don't think ispell.el will work with myspell without some
tinkering.

Re: spell checking on MS Windows: myspell?

[Peter Tury]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu> writes:

> You can find a precompiled Windows binary of Ispell and many
> dictionaries here:
>
>    http://www.luziusschneider.com/Speller/English/

Thanks, it looks quite promising! I'll check it.

>> Another relted question: can myspell be used with Emacs smoothly? I
>> saw a project what made myspell and dictionaries especially good for
>> my language (Hungarian), so maybe I will need myspell.
>
> You probably mean Hunspell (a derfivative of myspell), not myspell.

Most probably you are right.

> The above URL includes a Hungarian dictionary.  If that is not good
> enough, I suggest to try aspell, as someone else suggested.
>
>> couldn't found myspell.el. Will ispell.el work with it?
>
> No, I don't think ispell.el will work with myspell without some
> tinkering.

:-(

I afraid they made hunspell because neither (i|a|my)spell was good
enough for special Hungarian needs -- AND it was easier to make some
special than enhancing the general tool :-((

Re: spell checking on MS Windows: myspell?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Peter Tury <peter.tury@nokia.com>
> Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2007 09:12:47 GMT
> 
> > No, I don't think ispell.el will work with myspell without some
> > tinkering.
> 
> :-(
> 
> I afraid they made hunspell because neither (i|a|my)spell was good
> enough for special Hungarian needs -- AND it was easier to make some
> special than enhancing the general tool :-((

Then how about trying to convince the Hunspell maintainers to submit
changes to ispell.el that make Emacs work with Hunspell?  It cannot be
too hard, since aspell, which is a close relative of myspell/hunspell, 
already works with Emacs.

Re: spell checking on MS Windows: myspell?

[Peter Tury]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu...> writes:

> Then how about trying to convince the Hunspell maintainers to submit
> changes to ispell.el that make Emacs work with Hunspell?  It cannot be
> too hard, since aspell, which is a close relative of myspell/hunspell, 
> already works with Emacs.

Nice idea. Maybe I will try it some day -- though I have a feeling
that hunspell is not actively developed nowadays. Maybe I will try to
submit changes to ispell.el if I will found that (i|a)spell is not
enough for me (with Hungarian (i|a)spell dics).

However I haven't used any of these yet, so maybe they are perfect for
me in their current form ;-)