From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Eli Zaretskii Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: How to get rid of *GNU Emacs* buffer on start-up? Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:46:34 +0300 Message-ID: References: <873ajzwoqu.fsf@kobe.laptop> <823901dd-c54c-4e3b-b6ad-512d52724a46@z11g2000prl.googlegroups.com> NNTP-Posting-Host: lo.gmane.org Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Trace: ger.gmane.org 1221832053 30600 80.91.229.12 (19 Sep 2008 13:47:33 GMT) X-Complaints-To: usenet@ger.gmane.org NNTP-Posting-Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:47:33 +0000 (UTC) To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Fri Sep 19 15:48:30 2008 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([199.232.76.165]) by lo.gmane.org with esmtp (Exim 4.50) id 1KggLM-0004E7-1d for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:48:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:55818 helo=lists.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KggKH-0003tm-4a for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:47:13 -0400 Original-Received: from mailman by lists.gnu.org with tmda-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KggK0-0003tU-7j for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:46:56 -0400 Original-Received: from exim by lists.gnu.org with spam-scanned (Exim 4.43) id 1KggJy-0003t8-NC for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:46:55 -0400 Original-Received: from [199.232.76.173] (port=48382 helo=monty-python.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.43) id 1KggJy-0003t3-HO for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:46:54 -0400 Original-Received: from mtaout1.012.net.il ([84.95.2.1]:34628) by monty-python.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1KggJy-0006I8-HX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 09:46:54 -0400 Original-Received: from HOME-C4E4A596F7 ([77.127.116.246]) by i-mtaout1.012.net.il (HyperSendmail v2007.08) with ESMTPA id <0K7G00F1F3NBIM50@i-mtaout1.012.net.il> for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 16:47:38 +0300 (IDT) In-reply-to: X-012-Sender: halo1@inter.net.il X-detected-operating-system: by monty-python.gnu.org: Solaris 9.1 X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.5 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Original-Sender: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane.org@gnu.org Xref: news.gmane.org gmane.emacs.help:57795 Archived-At: > From: Xah Lee > Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 04:34:12 -0700 (PDT) >=20 > On Sep 19, 1:53 am, Eli Zaretskii wrote: > > > From: Xah Lee > > > Date: Thu, 18 Sep 2008 16:50:50 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > * Emacs does not provide a user level function to create a n= ew > > > buffer. It has =E2=80=9COpen New file...=E2=80=9D, which actual= ly creates a empty file > > > and immediately prompt user for a file name. This is annoying. > > > > This is incorrect. No file is created on disk until you actually= save > > the buffer. Until then, only a buffer is created. >=20 > Ok, my original phrasing is a bit off. Please focus on the main ide= as. If you want people to listen to your ideas seriously, you will wish t= o make a point of expressing them accurately. > So, i don't know what u mean except perhaps you are just fooling > around. I meant what I said: Emacs does not need to be like other (primitive) semi-editors, which don't distinguish between files and buffers. And I'm not ``fooling around'' more than you do.