alt v key

alt v key

[mark]

Hello,
sysadmin just upgraded my PC to suse 10.1 and emacs to 21.3  along with
it.
Before the  Alt v key scrolled up but now it capitalizes. How can I set
it up to have
the previous binding?
Thanks,
Mark

Re: alt v key

[Kevin Rodgers]

mark wrote:
> sysadmin just upgraded my PC to suse 10.1 and emacs to 21.3  along with
> it.
> Before the  Alt v key scrolled up but now it capitalizes. How can I set
> it up to have
> the previous binding?

What does `Ctrl-h k Alt-v' display?

-- 
Kevin

Re: alt v key

[mark]

Kevin:
after Ctrl-h k Alt-v


M-c runs the command capitalize-word
(capitalize-word ARG)
   which is an interactive built-in function.

Capitalize the following word (or ARG words), moving over.
This gives the word(s) a first character in upper case
and the rest lower case.
With negative argument, capitalize previous words but do not move.

thanks,
Mark


Kevin Rodgers wrote:
> mark wrote:
> > sysadmin just upgraded my PC to suse 10.1 and emacs to 21.3  along with
> > it.
> > Before the  Alt v key scrolled up but now it capitalizes. How can I set
> > it up to have
> > the previous binding?
> 
> What does `Ctrl-h k Alt-v' display?
> 
> -- 
> Kevin

Re: alt v key

[Mathias Dahl]

"mark" <mzp3769@yahoo.com> writes:

> Kevin:
> after Ctrl-h k Alt-v
>
>
> M-c runs the command capitalize-word

Either someone is playing a joke on you and have switched the physical
keys on your keyboard :) or you have suddenly got a new keyboard
layout. Does the v key give you a "v" when you type text? In Emacs? In
other apps?

Re: alt v key

[mark]

no, no new keyboard, doubt about a joke - only sysadmin has access to
my PC.
v displays correctyl in emacs/other apps,
Mark

Mathias Dahl wrote:
> "mark" <mzp3769@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > Kevin:
> > after Ctrl-h k Alt-v
> >
> >
> > M-c runs the command capitalize-word
>
> Either someone is playing a joke on you and have switched the physical
> keys on your keyboard :) or you have suddenly got a new keyboard
> layout. Does the v key give you a "v" when you type text? In Emacs? In
> other apps?

Re: alt v key

[Malte Spiess]

"mark" <mzp3769@yahoo.com> writes:

> no, no new keyboard, doubt about a joke - only sysadmin has access to
> my PC.
> v displays correctyl in emacs/other apps,
> Mark

This is really strange, as it says that you have input a "c".

What happens when you press C-h k followed by
C-M-v
M-c
C-v
C-c
?
(M = Alt, C = Ctrl)

Greetings 

Malte

Re: alt v key

[mark]

Below are the outputs after C-h k

C-M-v:
M-b runs the command backward-word
   which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple'.
(backward-word ARG)

Move backward until encountering the beginning of a word.
With argument, do this that many times.

M-c:
M-c runs the command capitalize-word
(capitalize-word ARG)
   which is an interactive built-in function.

Capitalize the following word (or ARG words), moving over.
This gives the word(s) a first character in upper case
and the rest lower case.
With negative argument, capitalize previous words but do not move.


C-v:
C-v runs the command scroll-up
(scroll-up &optional ARG)
   which is an interactive built-in function.

Scroll text of current window upward ARG lines; or near full screen if
no \
ARG.
A near full screen is `next-screen-context-lines' less than a full
screen.
Negative ARG means scroll downward.
If ARG is the atom `-', scroll downward by nearly full screen.
When calling from a program, supply as argument a number, nil, or `-'.

C-c: waits for further input

?:
? runs the command self-insert-command
(self-insert-command N)
   which is an interactive built-in function.

Insert the character you type.
Whichever character you type to run this command is inserted.

Thanks for help,
Mark

Malte Spiess wrote:
> "mark" <mzp3769@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > no, no new keyboard, doubt about a joke - only sysadmin has access to
> > my PC.
> > v displays correctyl in emacs/other apps,
> > Mark
>
> This is really strange, as it says that you have input a "c".
>
> What happens when you press C-h k followed by
> C-M-v
> M-c
> C-v
> C-c
> ?
> (M = Alt, C = Ctrl)
> 
> Greetings 
> 
> Malte

Re: alt v key

[Barry Margolin]

In article <1159464752.277038.83270@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
 "mark" <mzp3769@yahoo.com> wrote:

> Below are the outputs after C-h k
> 
> C-M-v:
> M-b runs the command backward-word
>    which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple'.
> (backward-word ARG)
> 
> Move backward until encountering the beginning of a word.
> With argument, do this that many times.

You've somehow set up a keyboard translation that maps C-M-v to M-b.  
Does this still happen if you run "emacs -q"?  If so, it's something 
you've done to your system independent of Emacs.

-- 
Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
*** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
*** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***

Re: alt v key

[mark]

with emacs -nw -q Alt v  I get ö instead,
Mark

Barry Margolin wrote:
> In article <1159464752.277038.83270@k70g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
>  "mark" <mzp3769@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > Below are the outputs after C-h k
> >
> > C-M-v:
> > M-b runs the command backward-word
> >    which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple'.
> > (backward-word ARG)
> >
> > Move backward until encountering the beginning of a word.
> > With argument, do this that many times.
>
> You've somehow set up a keyboard translation that maps C-M-v to M-b.
> Does this still happen if you run "emacs -q"?  If so, it's something
> you've done to your system independent of Emacs.
>
> --
> Barry Margolin, barmar@alum.mit.edu
> Arlington, MA
> *** PLEASE post questions in newsgroups, not directly to me ***
> *** PLEASE don't copy me on replies, I'll read them in the group ***

Re: alt v key

[mark]

After C-h k output is as follows
C-M-v:
M-b runs the command backward-word
   which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `simple'.
(backward-word ARG)

Move backward until encountering the beginning of a word.
With argument, do this that many times.

M-c:
M-c runs the command capitalize-word
(capitalize-word ARG)
   which is an interactive built-in function.

Capitalize the following word (or ARG words), moving over.
This gives the word(s) a first character in upper case
and the rest lower case.
With negative argument, capitalize previous words but do not move.

C-v:
C-v runs the command scroll-up
(scroll-up &optional ARG)
   which is an interactive built-in function.

Scroll text of current window upward ARG lines; or near full screen if
no \
ARG.
A near full screen is `next-screen-context-lines' less than a full
screen.
Negative ARG means scroll downward.
If ARG is the atom `-', scroll downward by nearly full screen.
When calling from a program, supply as argument a number, nil, or `-'.

C-c: - waits for further input

?:
? runs the command self-insert-command
(self-insert-command N)
   which is an interactive built-in function.

Insert the character you type.
Whichever character you type to run this command is inserted.

Thanks for help,
Mark




Malte Spiess wrote:
> "mark" <mzp3769@yahoo.com> writes:
>
> > no, no new keyboard, doubt about a joke - only sysadmin has access to
> > my PC.
> > v displays correctyl in emacs/other apps,
> > Mark
>
> This is really strange, as it says that you have input a "c".
>
> What happens when you press C-h k followed by
> C-M-v
> M-c
> C-v
> C-c
> ?
> (M = Alt, C = Ctrl)
> 
> Greetings 
> 
> Malte

Re: alt v key

[Giacomo Boffi]

"mark" <mzp3769@yahoo.com> writes:

> after Ctrl-h k Alt-v
> M-c runs the command capitalize-word

hi mark, i think that someone (usual suspect is gnome) is playing with
your xkb configuration

try turning off xkb altogether (i did it! and i got back my
keyboard...)

what it takes is editing xorg.conf,

1) modify the server layout introducing to the server another keyboard

Section "ServerLayout"
    Identifier     "Default Layout"
    Screen         "Default Screen" 0 0
    InputDevice    "Another Keyboard"
    InputDevice    "Configured Mouse"
EndSection

2) define another keyboard, where xkb is disabled
Section "InputDevice"
    Identifier     "Another Keyboard"
    Driver         "keyboard"
    Option         "CoreKeyboard"
    Option         "XkbDisable" "True"
EndSection

restart the server
-- 
e di sùbito parve giorno a giorno
essere aggiunto, come quei che puote
avesse il ciel d'un altro sole addorno

Re: alt v key

[Colin S. Miller]

mark wrote:
> Hello,
> sysadmin just upgraded my PC to suse 10.1 and emacs to 21.3  along with
> it.
> Before the  Alt v key scrolled up but now it capitalizes. How can I set
> it up to have
> the previous binding?
> Thanks,
> Mark
> 
Mark,

Start "xkeycaps", and then press Alt-v, on the physical keyboard.
Do the alt and v keys light up on the on-screen keyboard?

HTH,
Colin S. Miller

-- 
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Re: alt v key

[mark]

Coli,
I installed xkeycaps -  it did not recognize the vendor (ie The X.Org
Foundation from Dell)
so I entered L101 which it probably is. Alt v lights up on the
on-screen keyboard.
Mark

Colin S. Miller wrote:
> mark wrote:
> > Hello,
> > sysadmin just upgraded my PC to suse 10.1 and emacs to 21.3  along with
> > it.
> > Before the  Alt v key scrolled up but now it capitalizes. How can I set
> > it up to have
> > the previous binding?
> > Thanks,
> > Mark
> >
> Mark,
>
> Start "xkeycaps", and then press Alt-v, on the physical keyboard.
> Do the alt and v keys light up on the on-screen keyboard?
>
> HTH,
> Colin S. Miller
>
> --
> Replace the obvious in my email address with the first three letters of the hostname to reply.