From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Use Emacs as the IDE for Wolfram Mathematica. 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The temptation and pressure are harder to recognize when they come indirec= tly, through free software organizations that have adopted a policy of catering to prop= rietary software. The Open Group offers an example - funded by companies that make proprieta= ry software. > -- > Jean > > Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: > https://www.fsf.org/campaigns > > Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman > https://stallmansupport.org/ >