From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 23:13:42 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87r1oclvkp.fsf@web.de> <87blffzq7f.fsf@web.de> <87wny2r1a1.fsf@web.de> <236fb79f-014c-412f-9c78-fd9c774a57fc@default> <20201201084224.GA26076@tuxteam.de> <87k0u1gw2x.fsf@web.de> <87eek9gq4t.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="30331"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Michael Heerdegen Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 23:17:45 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kkDxx-0007mh-IL for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 23:17:45 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:53752 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkDxw-00019s-Ar for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 17:17:44 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:33094) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkDu6-0000Lp-RG for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 17:13:46 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:47343) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kkDu4-0005Ix-O3 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 17:13:46 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606860822; bh=hyYVX/HDAKwA4Q9NEQAF6+BU8sMMXez0PPggVlYVYe0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=QXTem33TlNC4zIpJGfhzmc4KTgfVmPj5+6N90EdqQfafEf2y+bpg4WWFTvG9AFEqH G6OXc4cL/p6AaIxfVsuDWapfLSYlAPrYJhK1ICl/AEEAgWjRZCuOXWSSILPk7fCmfc WYCssmhnRvUUnnMkMgV8QjjZdYlmdzdOCYDQq6NA= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs14.server.lan [172.19.170.182]) (via HTTP); Tue, 1 Dec 2020 23:13:42 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <87eek9gq4t.fsf@web.de> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:2zKnlVTJEDKKZsodn8DszpOv5daewNnlxsU84zihDrR/I9+6nC99zTpktVVfa1fzFw7+M 7XMoLPkHlhCQmHsyZM+vT94nFlZ9Ruf8s2+4+yRDOS8+vaofUDbJGAvjq5v0qbilIPRzs/16wsNH W8mZjVAXnooxVy+pMXawvUslxcpVmGTPWmmOa772tMJp4eEx57Pi29X3Rut9wjyD7gIpKXergNx/ wsBaN0N2mXYucMJre0pN4I8GHx5uDoiiPu6L3ge6882qaYU+SX1lt8aBtGZsvllpjZJpZsh3M7IO /E= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:kFPGVdoi6KY=:VSXBmdIKW9Ws81fkghQQ3E c2IWnKBfBt89Nz5tl6eqbwpupb0XGmBjM9y2WoYZXN7J9C9yZPh78Pdkbkg68jmU9SfyMF7lq erFw/CzgBphpBNDDXhWfbzN4ThiMI6cfZh8hEOFwxlyKOFG4KtGNdejvXJKM51t3SptnTz/S4 R+A23HPHfnyg+jmrIr8QWKWBIBb+J95KeahFWL1+n1obL8zfPUzIzK41EaB4q4FObmUQGZ02u s9Ut1Eu6Xmics8+X7MiLJea9e4jLVOsA9v9vredEn2wcmsi3Xiwl4Ur3S/Ur+2E80CTPYymU8 gzE/SRjQGtQH5iXV/rx9qO/CJ04jOd4J7+vOyf5DrAstJExcig6FgP5exbZdoR/q3hgLQoylP 0sdZYXqARPvePft8wNTEPzZQxJhjnWdhNnUQyv8NKF8DJ9meYlQj5l/IG8g9mv7mA8aWpIL+U QezALWnLmuRmpOj3AqN022R+T0N9Z6hAZKdQUZZURlEbkmIWP5ic9lK7/1aP6IVdNmqeoey83 om2l6JzX8H0rETCdl0HeewiP7xESvVc2sPRd79QVcKNh7RZA905LAEtJ4CMW+HvLkLXAR9ANS 80spWNbfroUfw= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.15; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125809 Archived-At: > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2020 at 10:42 PM > From: "Michael Heerdegen" > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments > > Christopher Dimech writes: > > > Thank you for the positive constructive criticism so we can make this > > happen. > > Hoping that was not irony, but I'm not sure. Absolutely not irony. > > Please, let's stop "experts" to define yourselves as I am really fed > > up of all this hyperbole. > > What alternative wording would you suggest? We will need to describe > with words who and who not we want to work on the new material. it would even be best if it would be completely created by normal users, the result of which we can then review. "We" can also be changed to "Emacs Documentation Delegates" or the like. Although you can use "experts" if used sparingly. It is customary that "expert" is not used to describe oneself, but to describe someone else. It is particularly used in introductions or to cite specific work considered outstanding. Be assured I am not against hierarchy. Coordination would be required ind= eed. Lately my biggest contribution has been in texinfo, with no plans to take = over emacs or its documentation. But simply because many users are keen to do = some customisations without having to ask other users to help them immediately. The positive thing would be that users would likely come up with some dece= nt code structures which the emacs community can then help them polish if nee= d be. PS: It is not necessary to rewrite things so as not to use experts. Am no= t that fidgety or sensitive. And you do help. So it's ok. Sincerely Christopher > Regards, > > Michael > > >