From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:59:02 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87pn419aha.fsf@robertthorpeconsulting.com> <20201126160013.GD28931@tuxteam.de> <20201126182734.GA5175@tuxteam.de> <54331aa0-6a9a-4809-9f2d-88deee31558b@default> <83pn3zp8bu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="19118"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Nov 27 09:01:20 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kiYgw-0004nX-CR for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 09:01:18 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57246 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiYgv-0002vP-75 for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 03:01:17 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:41810) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiYeo-0002t0-Uy for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 02:59:06 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.17.21]:44767) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiYen-00062V-2l; Fri, 27 Nov 2020 02:59:06 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606463942; bh=PJ2AaIBS49WCKiPLK3v83qAOzejgnkZMR2vWDSatcr8=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=U8crnc5K0sNNEPWzskzz+ScvF+QJi8bKovNR3nrSBG0kaCANb7qV2ViWiK6JYJLUv V7eeF4miwNozs/vNq5T8zu5LY9diWOID2PGS+A3B+4aKL7sD5L9VKzQqo7QjRZEyyQ hrYDyfLnDzdWZx5yELxSfsEGe1kThF7cWOvYUwu0= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs02.server.lan [172.19.170.129]) (via HTTP); Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:59:02 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <83pn3zp8bu.fsf@gnu.org> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:oOouRnxozR5VnUhbEhRG4S57mRAPP4Y5xQQJHsIA52f9BNANWX2bcaJtv0IqvP6QHHywh DGZ2rKd/6kZEGglqlJeeyywOJb3YVJbq7smo+9XTaENbGt/jsqQQtkbcz+63OWhKkUaSlIzwV8BM reVrRfgoeYIDh4RRdA574NvBbki5rooSWtdtOaJ0rQQvH1XbRggT7bt2O5yOPakVwkobdnpaQxL5 qLwULLDN1FHGvVQKlGTnwNeEEfpNijNXvzNMhnGDjz7fuL1dvQUh21hiYLobRmj+re2GITS26uSL mc= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:OiP9McWyt4k=:go8HAgGjhSPcmwcZP+cd2z qNrcI0sXO5XOhHViRmwKf+dnO5NFgGxEEeLQq2WoQH3QATdB9opj6EeCk3iEtpqgIthG8EyQ5 BFmYKJTM8ajyEyRYxH6VGAIRbPHWaArWhU2lRg9GUSDRE7Jm0t9ujq5nReu3QOW/JGBNXhNRQ Gkny+Xfu/7k7VpJOAXMEj31edI2hT8yt0bIoWpcPPYwdobsMYB+iTvEnlaLKIIkKoILxU18xB Yobz+Omn7xKL59Vgc4PHEYHHqPa1qs+8cdR4mYsgj1u9GGvH466E1QxP79SPLyaO9fi8jhPn/ BU1PagG9vFL/F/9H4wowmMooo0Zy3paHc+owlCXzLZKHov1x57WIn/TESbObfmaaTmOnADysg bEsAnCs7XRkKWgCCi1/FcEoVfRzI1hbuVF3OFsaXfhWI1n5gdq4EN4oJmDW4mXPqvkQMmJyoX 2D6OJkCOUahaM5roYB+wddWKLihDyFpB4SV2wTk6rsancZwyZbMoh6cSjPwSgTHQZhR2NTYVL 0qpIkHVw6FlF3rQTbwxWlM4eVQP1rOQ6l8zqZApqeQfbgb/VeCuCl2wcKrdCSHvquj7TPUn+i 4fndbRR8bUy0M= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.17.21; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125648 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 8:28 AM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments > > > From: Christopher Dimech > > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:47:08 +0100 > > Sensitivity: Normal > > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > The manuals should be rewritten because they are incomprehensible. > > Perhaps it was good in the eighties. It continues forever. Consider > > "face customisation" for instance, which just means font. Nobody > > fuckin reads a manual with 17 nodes. You don't know which one to use, > > which commands are most useful, and so on. The problem gets compounde= d > > because every esoteric command is there. > > > > You are just insisting on something bad and inefficient. > > Fair warning: if that is your attitude towards our documentation, > please be aware that there will be some people here who'd refrain from > helping you. We don't work for you, so if you refuse to help yourself > by becoming more proficient with the extensive documentation features > in Emacs, we cannot be expected to hold your hand forever. It is well known that some at Gnu cannot take criticisms when others try to read what others write. I am a writer by profession. So spare me the "Don't work for you" defensive approach.