From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: steve-humphreys@gmx.com Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: ielm not described in: An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2020 11:30:26 +0100 Message-ID: References: <87lfdvh0xz.fsf@posteo.net> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="5331"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Help Gnu Emacs To: "Philip K." Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Fri Dec 18 11:34:48 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kqD5z-0001GW-No for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 11:34:47 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:48086 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqD5y-00008u-OQ for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 05:34:46 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:45348) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqD1w-0004wV-8G for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 05:30:36 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:43165) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kqD1s-0000jU-EZ for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Fri, 18 Dec 2020 05:30:36 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1608287426; bh=fcgx9nkNjQxIlRTjoQ1z1XTLUEdh7y9QVFcsX+47+0s=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=NYOx5ujNIXeYyEaVqMb4NtTgFC3HOuaHjc5HdUzdH+2I2a0dhlYCqLhYOoHVFekSN Dg9Ph/IecOUsd7RNCijitSdMbqE8uc61xTQzliVwmaObJDPUe1k/JetoRK4jNJsMKC wLyQHX1Iu/DJ1a/40Om2xmfCnQ1lmHTEQn8zgj/E= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs11.server.lan [172.19.170.179]) (via HTTP); Fri, 18 Dec 2020 11:30:26 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <87lfdvh0xz.fsf@posteo.net> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:yWkEsUwnq7Smt78RHKdUyuejwcXXIjOwd/UP0MfkF/2BOlKpUB7nDbZbg2fYn3GbQAt41 CB79r7YyGBR6jUOiObPUJrWTZOkyVSnqchy/4c6wys6hRVoIE47gCachh0Gfo9rOz118Nx77kRxB JzoNPhBJt/FMnZJraMVefDFQ+Vn6hwYC663wa7fItBVSCObQHBB9CESwzjqwrZkqsHkkpi5UlJK3 nB9kBcIYLGRZuh/wUqjE5ChwxAHGta6O3B7RnfcKIAIqjv/kE4zkkfawyFtYssIhdtQAaMnnPzmi 7Q= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:UGIwyz4mb4o=:XMty4M54+QD9Yz3Z7Waca9 8qEDXiwcpWbhPHs+iNPNtgp1Tq2AG2wsfYux56lkkpRQrBb17N+7OAD3G1fPf837bl8RM2KMh yFyZwFcgxoJ4CRE4QsVd1m3p093IDwG+9JkROYEkQ8WSgPGtO+IvfcfjrTba/7uH3VnYV9Asy wINpGeZ72TBR4LjnbKp1lho9hBGojf0rMojsFY8xe5lhIU/Zm9Lgyif8svFxFHNN3TLTxcN8P 3sJgpSFrZ6ugLAJpMqE6nEwHu9b3VSyctrFPXV9YfOMC38CotRrVrfNTyUkxZzAqcMG4+37oh FObcukdv916H966VJreCgre4CKB9IW/sBE0n5dLlAJFBhH2NE5EgKObyVQ7+BrcTpiCj4qTrY lA5N41buZKJ80JZ2JEl4Vi08x5cdbRHd/c5CNIHs8ytmrZuxB12GxoGwV+W/Vunl+iWYmGdtP 5eqyXcVr3jLdZB2DNwZsO5JqwWSCPJFb99yQ1HlKKSlgXA1bqU+5J4jioWMpPS7czPGmK4zJN F0HLI+mu0n3EvQ05eJFlr7Wu6Zwmpxx7jmaArAYM9GQYhurxM2DvH89WelIquthsXq9ZXEy9I 9KicZDsgcugvs= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.19; envelope-from=steve-humphreys@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:126488 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, December 18, 2020 at 11:18 AM > From: "Philip K." > To: steve-humphreys@gmx.com > Cc: "Help Gnu Emacs" > Subject: Re: ielm not described in: An Introduction to Programming in Em= acs Lisp > > steve-humphreys@gmx.com writes: > > > ielm not described in: An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp. > > > > Yet there are many reasons for beginners to use ielm. Have some > > examples and beginners will get more productive using it as they > > delve into new things. > > I guess it's not mentioned, because it is not necessary, and at least to > my knowledge, most people will be using C-x C-e (eval-last-sexp) and > C-M-x (eval-defun) in the *scratch* buffer. Using a REPL, when you can > evaluate any part of a buffer seems like a step back to me. I think ielm has more features than just plain evaluation. > But I guess there would be no harm in mentioning it. But also show a couple of actual examples with real code. > -- > Philip K. > >