From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: tomas@tuxteam.de
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Cycle Org Shift Select
Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2020 11:17:22 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-ab01a762-af17-4aa3-a491-0a47d026977c-1605003441957@3c-app-mailcom-bs07> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20201110080829.GA11023@tuxteam.de>
Many thanks Tomas, have gone though the Elisp Manual yesterday
and I am getting to understand this list Ouroboros thing. :)
> Sent: Tuesday, November 10, 2020 at 9:08 AM
> From: tomas@tuxteam.de
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Cycle Org Shift Select
>
> On Mon, Nov 09, 2020 at 11:49:33PM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > What is the meaning of the '.' in '#1=(nil t always . #1#)?
>
> This means that the last cdr in that list isn't nil, as "decent,
> normal lists" (aka "proper lists") have, but a reference to something,
> in this case to the list's head (#1#), which you have taken previously,
> in #1=. Making the whole thing an Ouroboros [1].
>
> In box-and-pointer-ish, the list '(nil t always) looks like so
> (WARNING: psychedelic effects guaranteed when using variable-pitch
> fonts. But who does that, anyway?):
>
> +-----+--+ +--+--+ +--+-----+
> | nil | | ---> | | | ---> | | nil |
> +-----+--+ +--+--+ +--+-----+
> | |
> v v
> 't 'always
>
> Note how the list ends with a pair whose cdr is nil.
>
> The dot notation allows you to fill both slots of a pair (car
> and cdr), thus putting something other than the "link to next"
> in a cdr, creating an improper list; the reference notation
> (that #...= and #...#) allows you to take a ref at some place
> and use it later. That's what your above monster looks like
> in box-and-pointer:
>
> +---------------------------------+
> | |
> v |
> +-----+--+ +--+--+ +--+--+ |
> | nil | | ---> | | | ---> | | | ---+
> +-----+--+ +--+--+ +--+--+
> | |
> v v
> 't 'always
>
>
> So if you run *that* list along (by doing cdr), you'll run
> in circles, over and over again. That was this device's
> intention, anyway, if I followed along correctly.
>
> Cheers
>
> [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ouroboros
> - t
>
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2020-11-10 10:17 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2020-11-06 15:23 Cycle Org Shift Select Christopher Dimech
2020-11-09 19:12 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-11-09 20:13 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 20:26 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-11-09 20:31 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 20:37 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-11-09 21:08 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 21:19 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-11-09 20:40 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-09 20:42 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-11-09 20:52 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-09 20:53 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-11-09 21:20 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 21:25 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-11-09 21:36 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 21:45 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-09 21:49 ` Noam Postavsky
2020-11-09 21:50 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 21:59 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-09 22:49 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-10 8:08 ` tomas
2020-11-10 10:17 ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2020-11-10 11:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-10 16:37 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-11 17:09 ` Drew Adams
2020-11-09 20:10 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-11-09 20:35 ` Christopher Dimech
2020-11-09 21:18 ` Michael Heerdegen
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