From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Morally equivalent Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:27:55 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87y1tfzhzm.fsf@undisclosedlocation.com> <877d0zfjqa.fsf@web.de> <87h703e445.fsf@web.de> <8735bne2d4.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="15185"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: Michael Heerdegen , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Mon Oct 17 07:30:18 2022 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1okIhe-0003kF-1x for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:30:18 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:41952 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okIhc-0003Xo-Na for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:30:16 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:36390) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okIfR-0003Ve-Lc for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:28:01 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:49079) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1okIfP-0007QP-3F for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Mon, 17 Oct 2022 01:28:01 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1665984475; bh=HLxIkm9HxBX1cDVGGvfSsZ3MzQvxmcBn5XCTbjs4Vbc=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=Vr4+yW8H/YNzWXhIn0hkm9Rt0Gig5QplYw0joDTDRAZHsKbR/0rNJeI/Ml+tABCVh Qug1VqBcPtj9w2H9uLPILA/V4UuCq2L4fSa03Wt8wtcyUSbH7CQoN3z4z71ag67zx9 fRjDtDE5GzYugrFHz8og6g/rL6fqRf2N34QlvPC0= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [92.251.127.164] ([92.251.127.164]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs10.server.lan [172.19.170.178]) (via HTTP); Mon, 17 Oct 2022 07:27:55 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:mwqAsT68M+5YVNkPICUpK2n+8kX37UI5ewnLFDIW+i0Ow4xHD8sA8cNk4N3xEuM153BmU NMoOMrbGUN6WM2DAnGB1BduNgD/QT+HMdkccF/P3r7+kR238q03Iyer1FwpsKijGt6y+GlopmbHP I6ElcPdmUOihX0SelyoFhkCH4SQazlAhzMavpb+6v1EAw8Y68X6YIfqIbt/1Iwda5lLxhQR16sSn zhZD9T6mQ3B6vJpw265NEmQRNy6J7Myh9vqMsN/mYZ9/qjpujbkjXUA4tOIPwpiRSZwFJH7b5tpR rM= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:+Nk/X23YYHY=:FrkBGvF4W4YHUZ0NvHs2xi d+RzqoJd5Q9IRRfjVPPuwulNGjrRNkvo+rqTeWe4PA/v7WEx/I4XmT3Uv+pKfSnGy1gEd0/G2 biyHoAGc2kvGEota/vyHbdyA9Sxp2CNhJ57wzoafB1XTqo4egZgFXrDHR7iriEBE6qLJNZ2i1 Nn/EVSiOfvM2ABhTOPk1c4BXcqyJivJvJKimouvqSQIcfLQwP87pbp4woflZkm2dwbbjFvq/C XzdOsMFV50bhrneD/UAFiVijE0BuR81AGaC/shcDBcj2HVrJQpEaAE4+ACexpgefmpM4gnkeq GenTOQZmxxzaVJLfHJeHFMOlTEy0jpO354hsXU2I0u6ARq6jXaCVoVk3l2V02craYEPzvWlmx Y2lhjsZP2kmMrKhEMQh+VLbvXxZufDm+XniCrCYiyMclbW4PmQ4pw/VpQ3sil+SbWDx/EAzr3 mQFvN+aQTSbi6PHvnz2Ip0xa/52z51h1jiPKEprRK0LNFDT13t03UB03krvq9CmZM8GPc1ql8 bSu+++axlplzAxJzHRhCYYfbUfkqf3Nsnlvyz+Z34pVd2cmrl9+eBei4IWZdJPzjxqSVCHZCf ++u6BoSX8mjzy508Db2D1JsIfoaBLH1RR3RF4luAks2rBGhphikT+IvoQNFiR2EL3XdtYSRfz 5qOv2ytgTT0aGhGSZCy7VG8UZChF7/n9rmz66DoZMvr6umYTstlp1btYP0O/QK0U5rVz6BSu6 o4NoDCtmvVzvHVqaPIfGNXk7wc07nHGj0DLg3j8a/qCigiGpT3a6KLihtjp5fKvkWMBM7IFY Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.15; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.29 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:140066 Archived-At: > Sent: Monday, October 17, 2022 at 4:52 PM > From: tomas@tuxteam.de > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Michael Heerdegen" , help-gnu-emacs@gnu.o= rg > Subject: Re: Morally equivalent > > On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 02:32:09AM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > [...] > > > Right. But I would say that the easiest thing is to write better docu= mentation > > (in source) as you are writing the code. > > This seems to me morally equivalent to "I don't want to do the work, > but I enjoy rambling about what others ought to do". What I can do, nobody can do. Furthermore, I have no morals. When you ar= e in unfamiliar territory it is wise to find a guide. You are the soldier, I am the four = star general. If you are incapable of taking instructions, it's likely that you die. Ma= kes no difference to me. My only concern is if you get blown away, your partners will get b= lown away with you.