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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Po Lu <luangruo@yahoo.com>
Cc: Arash Esbati <arash@gnu.org>, Drew Adams <drew.adams@oracle.com>,
	"eliz@gnu.org" <eliz@gnu.org>,
	"monnier@iro.umontreal.ca" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>,
	Help Gnu Emacs <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
	"carlmarcos@tutanota.com" <carlmarcos@tutanota.com>,
	"michael_heerdegen@web.de" <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
Subject: Re: completing-read depricated initial-input
Date: Wed, 22 Jun 2022 06:56:47 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-a61d6e60-20a4-4636-91c3-d0ba41a9e43c-1655873807300@3c-app-mailcom-bs15> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87bkuljsvz.fsf@yahoo.com>


> Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2022 at 3:09 PM
> From: "Po Lu" <luangruo@yahoo.com>
> To: "Arash Esbati" <arash@gnu.org>
> Cc: "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>, "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>, "eliz@gnu.org" <eliz@gnu.org>, "monnier@iro.umontreal.ca" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>, "Help Gnu Emacs" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>, "carlmarcos@tutanota.com" <carlmarcos@tutanota.com>, "michael_heerdegen@web.de" <michael_heerdegen@web.de>
> Subject: Re: completing-read depricated initial-input
>
> Arash Esbati <arash@gnu.org> writes:
>
> > I agree that there are cases where INITIAL-INPUT still has its place,
> > but as I said, I remember the reason for phasing it out was different
> > than stylistic preferences.
>
> What other reason can there be?  I can't think of any non-stylistic
> reason to discourage using that argument.
>
> If you think it is counterproductive to insert some initial value into
> the minibuffer itself, then by all means recommend against using it.
>
> But don't obsolete the means of doing so.


Because `completing-read` is a very general function, on purpose, and
has historically been getting more and more general, the presence of
INITIAL-INPUT does have purpose.  Would want to keep `completing-read`
as a general canonical function for user input.  And I do use it, especially
when `REQUIRE-MATCH` in `t`.

Obsoleting the means of using it will introduce functional difficulties rather
than solving or simplifying anything.

There is enough agreement about the generality of `completing-read` to keep
the functionality of INITIAL-INPUT.







  parent reply	other threads:[~2022-06-22  4:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 109+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-06-21  7:56 completing-read depricated initial-input carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
     [not found] ` <N54Fw5q--3-2@tutanota.com-N54INof----2>
2022-06-21  9:51   ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-21 11:19     ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-21 12:39       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-21 12:46         ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-21 14:04           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 14:10             ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-21 14:49               ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22  8:50     ` Jean Louis
2022-06-22  9:32       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-21 10:26 ` Robert Pluim
2022-06-21 11:15   ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-21 12:39 ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-21 14:09   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 18:21     ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-21 19:04       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-21 20:41       ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 21:28         ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-21 22:07           ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-21 22:56             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 13:43               ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22 15:59                 ` standard libraries again (was: Re: [External] : Re: completing-read depricated initial-input) Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 17:39                   ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22 18:05                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 20:53                       ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22 21:18                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23  7:59             ` completing-read depricated initial-input Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 10:06               ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-23 20:57                 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 11:19               ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-23 12:12                 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 14:52                   ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-23 16:30                     ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-23 16:41                       ` Michael Heerdegen
2022-06-23 18:27                         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 21:14                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 18:25                       ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 21:13                       ` [External] : " Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:07                     ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:06                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 14:36                 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-24  2:35                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24  6:59                     ` Jean Louis
2022-06-23 15:19                 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-23 15:24                 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-23 21:05                 ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-23 22:10                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 22:19                     ` Stefan Monnier
2022-06-23 22:28                       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24  7:08                     ` Jean Louis
2022-06-24  8:19                       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24 11:00                         ` Jean Louis
2022-06-24 16:58                           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24  8:19                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24 11:31                         ` Jean Louis
2022-06-25 18:54                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-25 19:51                             ` Jean Louis
2022-06-26 17:36                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24 14:30                         ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-24 19:33                           ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-06-25 19:12                           ` [External] : " Emanuel Berg
2022-06-25 21:26                             ` Drew Adams
2022-06-26 17:39                               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-26 22:22                                 ` Drew Adams
2022-06-26 22:42                                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24  0:10                   ` Drew Adams
2022-06-24  8:09                     ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24  2:29                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 16:23               ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-23 20:58                 ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 21:54                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-24  2:49                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22  3:09           ` Po Lu
2022-06-22  3:46             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22  4:56             ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2022-06-23  8:20             ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23  8:27               ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23  8:57                 ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-23 10:10                   ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 11:26                     ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-23 11:48                       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-23 21:38                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24  8:03                           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-06-23 21:34                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 11:58                     ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 12:10                       ` Lars Ingebrigtsen
2022-06-23 14:26                         ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-23 14:46                           ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-23 15:18                             ` Robert Pluim
2022-06-23 20:46                               ` Arash Esbati
2022-06-24  8:40                                 ` Philip Kaludercic
2022-06-24  2:22                             ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-24  2:17                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:49                         ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 21:42                       ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-23 16:25                   ` [External] : " Drew Adams
2022-06-23 19:56                     ` Tassilo Horn
2022-06-24 11:23                       ` carlmarcos--- via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-06-24 11:36                         ` Jean Louis
2022-06-25 19:01                           ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-25 21:26                             ` Drew Adams
2022-06-22  2:59         ` RE: [External] : " Christopher Dimech
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-06-21 14:56 Anders Munch
2022-06-22  8:45 ` Jean Louis
2022-06-22 10:02 Anders Munch
2022-06-22 11:58 ` Emanuel Berg
2022-06-22 13:23 ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-06-22 13:17 Anders Munch
2022-06-22 13:43 Anders Munch

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