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How many chinese language articles have you read? What really important i= nformation do they contain, and how are they crucial to read? When a similar thing w= as done in russia, almost everything has by now been forgotten. > Sent: Thursday, July 22, 2021 at 10:55 AM > From: "Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor" > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Emacs i18n > > Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor [2021-07-21 23= :58:31] wrote: > > Stefan Monnier via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor wrote: > >>> China's opinion is irrelevant and full of shit. > >> Your prejudice doesn't change the fact that a significant > >> (and arguably an increasing) amount of research is done > >> in Chinese. > > I believe you, but how do you know that? > > Only occasional anectodal "evidence", sorry. > > But for example https://www.nature.com/articles/d41586-021-01076-x > refers to a major increase in funding in China, and while AFAIK top > research from China still aims to publish in English venues (which are > still more prestigious and give more exposure), I expect a large > fraction of that research is only published in Chinese (after all, the > Chinese speaking audience is already fairly large ;-) > > > Stefan > > > PS: While the above talks about science in general, my own experience is > limited to computer science, where English is arguably even more > entrenched than in other fields. > > >