From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments Date: Sat, 28 Nov 2020 13:05:47 +0100 Message-ID: References: <20201127160216.GA27998@tuxteam.de> <20201127175346.GB27998@tuxteam.de> <87zh324fa9.fsf@web.de> <837dq5ordu.fsf@gnu.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="1512"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Eli Zaretskii Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sat Nov 28 13:08:31 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kiz1j-0000IG-0V for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 13:08:31 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:51436 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiz1h-0006eH-Sj for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 07:08:30 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:48410) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiyz9-0006eB-EI for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 07:05:51 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:42541) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kiyz7-0000t9-Oy; Sat, 28 Nov 2020 07:05:51 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606565148; bh=NlrWyVMniBgOx+Rs9fR8g3QXLtxsk/Es98v40nokobk=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=EVGDsEmBbr1au7Lmm1q2WSZee4c0G2O1HUWMwpSteS89a75HymsTPbnPinRDWoYD5 WsUk3ewU6NOBa3Ne7o1nmaRLgZcvhfFerOAPa4dUC8widaGQOP1eAo9vrJ/AZ8G9R1 ByHfWOYBesILgdumsCLN6PksquYuqSaTUQYuuCSg= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs12.server.lan [172.19.170.180]) (via HTTP); Sat, 28 Nov 2020 13:05:47 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <837dq5ordu.fsf@gnu.org> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:4YBm0t+8yk/2TBm8I33IxWJbY8C5KTHB1esNXisKxtDK7ccjkWitym0FUfGFfgCgZ7ZEL IUG2B96vP5gkSXNsz43/soPiKBJ+ZXskyeE/lvmsMXBpOkCX6aB9s34t8wL6RfJfuIEb82ArBrBr wZGzs3vOekUHQ/9lICwbyJ0KmsIxLeCU+b6ErR8nq3m+du5vsJSKefimOFXXZFC7ppuQ+eDclIHh Z3C3KO2f4ho/CM765JAVzVx1DrwIqq1v6Gt9UiE3MUZ/tSO/4+rfPRHfJEXA2EJYuXpGtNDZTJln fY= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:VpbfoLBvqhA=:J2vkq7nd5uMWpmj23KXpHZ bKl76xMoyCpX14NpacNhptvMvndIyTOTxftN4q0XR+yTnLYfC0HgxNP/ViaRXvyB/rYrAClBw WKHrxcjz1Ab/JQlgpfunW8c8r0TL+PqlCIl6+XGTTNV56misZWm7CSfSVSSkKEIGghiw7Pr6a MH7gXLN0eX+mTFRCaL91/r+QOAqDyqInQMyp0HTbuFhp/TGe4pL9NvPZqXJs6dh14qcPSwi91 Wzc5q9LQFPDkoFVQ+b0Wi50tX4V7ZveQtR6tVxE/h6GQiMADq0REPelNhPowYWhOF69RuvzED nPBqoPB1qkDPbhc7EyLJ/cutcqHdpgmEI9ezNTelmLRbYvdzqWuP1vh/aKcozR7y0gMDMAv1x DHQGYpuZHEJv5gZDXexQxAPtMAF/169ZoB+th6AwvA8y9tk6jlvu9mDQn0dgK8A/DqLsLEj1e qXQt85SEZeupxKUMEUsxXUkk5Ht79lwSvH55jInBrbvj8wBsXuWHnQA0IDhL/jAPC/rhM4c2D oBw1Jy8bYrp01CWaCbqmCrUeygW1UV7iil0Mf5qaV3bMuoTnAlrRNq5CtnJWryHJxz7zDjIKn 7t+S1Am/IGwoo= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.19; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125724 Archived-At: Re-Writing is a basic tenet amongst writers, but not among programmers it = seems. > Sent: Saturday, November 28, 2020 at 8:46 AM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments > > > From: Michael Heerdegen > > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 23:15:58 +0100 > > > > And if you ask for help everybody is suddenly quiet. I would be pisse= d > > off. I don't know where Eli's motivation comes from. > > My motivation comes from the urge to keep improving the Emacs > documentation. I cannot possibly do that with "criticism" that just > says our documentation sucks and should be rewritten, because that's > not useful: I don't know how to convert that to any useful list of > things to fix. > > And, of course, saying that the manuals should be rewritten is a clear > sign that the person probably doesn't know how to use the Info mode > efficiently, and probably didn't read too much of said documentation. > Which further diminishes the useful payload of such claims. > >