From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Use Emacs as the IDE for Wolfram Mathematica. 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Thusly, although someone might include such > > functionality for Emacs, it should not be taken up as part of the > > official emacs development chain. > > Thank you for pointing that out. > > We don't support in GNU project proprietary software, such discussions > should be made in other places. > > It is also questionable from licensing view point, both from the > proprietary software vendor and from free software viewpoint. > > GPL3+ license does not allow making publicly distributed software that > requires Emacs and also requires proprietary software. It does not go, > as it cannot be properly GPL3+ licensed as whole. > > Unless if it would be written by the author of proprietary software > part, as in that case GPL3+ license would allow to disregard any > proprietary prohibitions (provided there is source). > > When any Emacs package is made, then the package has to be with GPL3+ > compatible software license because it requires Emacs which is GPL3+ > licensed. For official Gnu Software that is true, but onu can also make a package fo= r emacs where the code is proprietary. > -- > Jean > > Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: > https://www.fsf.org/campaigns > > Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman > https://stallmansupport.org/ >