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So maybe we could introduce a new convention for a "shor= t > >> multi-line description" (something like 4-5 lines, we could call it > >> "Summary" or "Abstract", maybe), in addition to the short single-line > >> description. It could be used in release announcements, or appear in > >> https://elpa.gnu.org/packages/ when you hover over a package descript= ion > >> (or appear when you click something to "unfold" the description, > >> maybe?). > > > > I do not see it would be necessary. What can be done is take first pa= ragraph > > in the commentary. And leave the single line brief intact. > > IOW, you're suggesting to introduce the convention that the first > paragraph be considered as the "summary/abstract". I like that, tho > I haven't checked to see if it would work well in practice. > > > Stefan Correct. Even then, you can consider showing the first N lines of the first paragraph, and if there are more lines in first paragraph, add "..." at the end of Nth line.