From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: tomas@tuxteam.de
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support>
Subject: Re: Determining existence of text following point
Date: Tue, 18 May 2021 14:50:21 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-72b23eac-612b-4aa4-9f9d-ee7137a9d45a-1621342221826@3c-app-mailcom-bs13> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20210518123541.GF11623@tuxteam.de>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 19, 2021 at 12:35 AM
> From: tomas@tuxteam.de
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Determining existence of text following point
>
> On Tue, May 18, 2021 at 02:23:25PM +0200, Christopher Dimech wrote:
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2021 at 11:56 PM
> > > From: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> > > To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> > > Cc: tomas@tuxteam.de, help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> > > Subject: Re: Determining existence of text following point
> > >
> > > * Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> [2021-05-18 14:27]:
> > > > > > (setq sa (string-match "[^[:blank:]]" " "))
> > >
> > > > I find the description different from what string-match actually
> > > > returns.
> > >
> > > The symbol ^ means "not following", and that regular expression means
> > > match non-blanks.
> > >
> > > (string-match "[^[:blank:]]" " ") ⇒ nil
> > > (string-match "[[:blank:]]" " ") ⇒ 0
> >
> > You are correct. "^" means match everything but the following class.
> >
> > I am quite used on see "^" to mean "beginning of line". So just read
> > it as I usually do.
>
> This is outside the context of character classes, i.e. outside [...].
>
> > It is unfortunate that there exist so many different syntaxes for writing
> > regular expressions.
>
> Yet all those syntaxes coincide in that one thing: "^" outside of
> brackets means "anchor at the beginning" (of line, most of the time,
> but it could be "of string" or similar), whereas inside of character
> class brackets (but _only_ right after the opening bracket!) it
> means complement.
>
> This is an unfortunate quirk, but those notations are around since
> the early 1970s, so that ship has sailed. Go and tell a phisicist
> to use something else than the "uppercase L" for the Lagrangian.
Richard Feynman used to come up with very strange notation, and we relied on
Freeman Dyson to make sense in a familiar mathematical notation. Einstein
had the same problem.
> The multitude of regular expression extensions and implementations
> is an issue, yes, but a completely different one.
>
> Cheers
> - t
>
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Thread overview: 37+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2021-05-17 21:46 Determining existence of text following point michael-franzese
2021-05-17 22:02 ` Skip Montanaro
2021-05-17 22:31 ` michael-franzese
2021-05-17 23:05 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-05-17 23:15 ` michael-franzese
2021-05-17 23:36 ` Skip Montanaro
2021-05-18 0:09 ` Eric Abrahamsen
2021-05-18 0:37 ` michael-franzese
2021-05-18 8:24 ` michael-franzese
2021-05-18 8:56 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-18 9:31 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-18 9:42 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-18 9:54 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-18 10:08 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-18 11:07 ` tomas
2021-05-18 11:26 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-18 11:56 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-18 12:23 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-18 12:35 ` tomas
2021-05-18 12:50 ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2021-05-18 12:02 ` tomas
2021-05-18 12:15 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-18 12:27 ` tomas
2021-05-18 12:43 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-18 12:44 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-18 12:28 ` Christopher Dimech
2021-05-18 12:47 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-18 20:50 ` michael-franzese
2021-05-18 22:04 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-18 22:17 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-19 7:28 ` michael-franzese
2021-05-19 8:05 ` michael-franzese
2021-05-19 10:23 ` Jean Louis
2021-05-19 10:32 ` michael-franzese
2021-05-19 12:31 ` michael-franzese
2021-05-17 23:53 ` michael-franzese
2021-05-18 8:47 ` Jean Louis
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