Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[David Masterson]

I'm an old Emacs from before window systems, so I do most of my work in
one (maybe two) frames on my laptop.  Old eyes don't see as well as they
used to, so I invariably use a slightly larger font and hit the maximize
button.  I've configured my font -- now how do I maximize from within my
startup file.
-- 
David Masterson

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Christopher Dimech]

(require 'maximize)

If you want to bind Hot-keys, add setting lines like below.

(global-set-key [f9] 'maximize-toggle-frame-vmax)
(global-set-key [f11] 'maximize-toggle-frame-hmax)



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> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 4:42 AM
> From: "David Masterson" <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?
>
> I'm an old Emacs from before window systems, so I do most of my work in
> one (maybe two) frames on my laptop.  Old eyes don't see as well as they
> used to, so I invariably use a slightly larger font and hit the maximize
> button.  I've configured my font -- now how do I maximize from within my
> startup file.
> --
> David Masterson
>
>

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 05:04:29 +0100
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> 
> (require 'maximize)
> 
> If you want to bind Hot-keys, add setting lines like below.
> 
> (global-set-key [f9] 'maximize-toggle-frame-vmax)
> (global-set-key [f11] 'maximize-toggle-frame-hmax)

F11 is already bound to a similar, but more useful command, so I don't
see why the OP should rebind it.  He should simply use it.

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Christopher Dimech]

> Sent: Friday, December 04, 2020 at 9:34 AM
> From: "Eli Zaretskii" <eliz@gnu.org>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?
>
> > From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
> > Date: Fri, 4 Dec 2020 05:04:29 +0100
> > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> >
> >
> > (require 'maximize)
> >
> > If you want to bind Hot-keys, add setting lines like below.
> >
> > (global-set-key [f9] 'maximize-toggle-frame-vmax)
> > (global-set-key [f11] 'maximize-toggle-frame-hmax)
>
> F11 is already bound to a similar, but more useful command, so I don't
> see why the OP should rebind it.  He should simply use it.

Agreed

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[David Masterson]

Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> writes:

> (require 'maximize)
>
> If you want to bind Hot-keys, add setting lines like below.
>
> (global-set-key [f9] 'maximize-toggle-frame-vmax)
> (global-set-key [f11] 'maximize-toggle-frame-hmax)

Thanks.  Since I'm using a Chromebook, I don't have a (readily obvious)
set of function keys, so, if needed, I'll find other keys.

-- 
David Masterson

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Christopher Dimech]

> Sent: Saturday, December 05, 2020 at 4:05 AM
> From: "David Masterson" <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?
>
> Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> writes:
>
> > (require 'maximize)
> >
> > If you want to bind Hot-keys, add setting lines like below.
> >
> > (global-set-key [f9] 'maximize-toggle-frame-vmax)
> > (global-set-key [f11] 'maximize-toggle-frame-hmax)
>
> Thanks.  Since I'm using a Chromebook, I don't have a (readily obvious)
> set of function keys, so, if needed, I'll find other keys.

Use the keys that work best for you.  you can check if a key is empty by using

C-h k KeySeq

where KeySeq is the key sequence you want to check


> --
> David Masterson
>

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Jean Louis]

* David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com> [2020-12-04 06:57]:
> I'm an old Emacs from before window systems, so I do most of my work in
> one (maybe two) frames on my laptop.  Old eyes don't see as well as they
> used to, so I invariably use a slightly larger font and hit the maximize
> button.  I've configured my font -- now how do I maximize from within my
> startup file.

It is better you set it with {M-x customize-face RET default RET} and
save for future session.

Jean

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

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() David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com>
() Thu, 03 Dec 2020 19:42:02 -0800

   I'm an old Emacs from before window systems, so I do most of
   my work in one (maybe two) frames on my laptop.  Old eyes
   don't see as well as they used to, so I invariably use a
   slightly larger font and hit the maximize button.  I've
   configured my font -- now how do I maximize from within my
   startup file.

I use ratpoison, for the same reasons.

(Here, i interpret startup file to be ~/.xsession :-D.)

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Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[David Masterson]

Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org> writes:

> () David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com>
> () Thu, 03 Dec 2020 19:42:02 -0800
>
>    I'm an old Emacs from before window systems, so I do most of
>    my work in one (maybe two) frames on my laptop.  Old eyes
>    don't see as well as they used to, so I invariably use a
>    slightly larger font and hit the maximize button.  I've
>    configured my font -- now how do I maximize from within my
>    startup file.
>
> I use ratpoison, for the same reasons.
>
> (Here, i interpret startup file to be ~/.xsession :-D.)

Hmm. I'm not familiar with ratpoison (other than for killing rats -
which, I hope, is not what you mean).

-- 
David Masterson

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Thien-Thi Nguyen]

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() David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com>
() Fri, 04 Dec 2020 19:09:45 -0800

   Hmm. I'm not familiar with ratpoison (other than for killing
   rats - which, I hope, is not what you mean).

No worries.  It's a tiling window manager that maximizes all the
windows it manages:

 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison

I invoke it from ~/.xsession which is part of the "startx" flow.
(My computer boots into the (non-graphical) console.)

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Thien-Thi Nguyen -----------------------------------------------
 (defun responsep (query)               ; (2020) Software Libero
   (pcase (context query)               ;       = Dissenso Etico
     (`(technical ,ml) (correctp ml))
     ...))                              748E A0E8 1CB8 A748 9BFA
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Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[David Masterson]

Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org> writes:

> () David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com>
> () Fri, 04 Dec 2020 19:09:45 -0800
>
>    Hmm. I'm not familiar with ratpoison (other than for killing
>    rats - which, I hope, is not what you mean).
>
> No worries.  It's a tiling window manager that maximizes all the
> windows it manages:
>
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison
>
> I invoke it from ~/.xsession which is part of the "startx" flow.
> (My computer boots into the (non-graphical) console.)

Thanks.  Not using a window manager at the moment (thinking about EXWM),
but I'll keep it in mind.

-- 
David Masterson

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Michael Heerdegen]

Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org> writes:

> No worries.  It's a tiling window manager that maximizes all the
> windows it manages:
>
>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison

The name is a joke about its effect on... normal people - right?

Michael.

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Marcin Borkowski]

On 2020-12-06, at 03:38, Michael Heerdegen <michael_heerdegen@web.de> wrote:

> Thien-Thi Nguyen <ttn@gnuvola.org> writes:
>
>> No worries.  It's a tiling window manager that maximizes all the
>> windows it manages:
>>
>>  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratpoison
>
> The name is a joke about its effect on... normal people - right?

Not exactly - the name refers to the idea that you can operate it using
the keyboard exclusively - so no need for... rodents. ;-)

Best,

--
Marcin Borkowski
http://mbork.pl

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Michael Heerdegen]

Marcin Borkowski <mbork@mbork.pl> writes:

> > The name is a joke about its effect on... normal people - right?
>
> Not exactly - the name refers to the idea that you can operate it using
> the keyboard exclusively - so no need for... rodents. ;-)

Ah - I see.  Poor rodents!

Regards,

Michael.

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Joost Kremers]

On Fri, Dec 04 2020, David Masterson wrote:
> I'm an old Emacs from before window systems, so I do most of my work in
> one (maybe two) frames on my laptop.  Old eyes don't see as well as they
> used to, so I invariably use a slightly larger font and hit the maximize
> button.  I've configured my font -- now how do I maximize from within my
> startup file.

I have the following line in my `~/.emacs.d/early-init.el`:

    (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(fullscreen . maximized))

It works in `~/.emacs.d/init.el` as well, but then the frame is first drawn and
subsequently maximised. In `early-init.el`, you only see the maximised frame.

-- 
Joost Kremers
Life has its moments

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Jean Louis]

* Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm> [2020-12-04 10:41]:
> 
> On Fri, Dec 04 2020, David Masterson wrote:
> > I'm an old Emacs from before window systems, so I do most of my work in
> > one (maybe two) frames on my laptop.  Old eyes don't see as well as they
> > used to, so I invariably use a slightly larger font and hit the maximize
> > button.  I've configured my font -- now how do I maximize from within my
> > startup file.
> 
> I have the following line in my `~/.emacs.d/early-init.el`:
> 
>     (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(fullscreen . maximized))
> 
> It works in `~/.emacs.d/init.el` as well, but then the frame is first drawn and
> subsequently maximised. In `early-init.el`, you only see the maximised frame.

Good tip, I am using it now.

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Eli Zaretskii]

> From: Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm>
> Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2020 08:38:38 +0100
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> 
> I have the following line in my `~/.emacs.d/early-init.el`:
> 
>     (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(fullscreen . maximized))
> 
> It works in `~/.emacs.d/init.el` as well, but then the frame is first drawn and
> subsequently maximised.

Did you try to do this in window-setup-hook or emacs-startup-hook?

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Pankaj Jangid]

Eli Zaretskii <eliz@gnu.org> writes:

>> I have the following line in my `~/.emacs.d/early-init.el`:
>> 
>>     (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(fullscreen . maximized))
>> 
>> It works in `~/.emacs.d/init.el` as well, but then the frame is first drawn and
>> subsequently maximised.
>
> Did you try to do this in window-setup-hook or emacs-startup-hook?

I also tried it in window-setup-hook and emacs-startup-hook. But first
it is drawn with built-in default values and then default-frame-alist
parameters comes into effect.

So I moved my following setting to early-init.el. It works fine there.

#+begin_src emacs-lisp
(setq default-frame-alist
       '((vertical-scroll-bars . nil)
	 (horizontal-scroll-bars . nil)
	 (height . 55)
  	 (width . 174)
	 (left . 613)
	 (top . 391)
	 (tool-bar-lines . 0)))
#+end_src

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[David Masterson]

Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm> writes:

> On Fri, Dec 04 2020, David Masterson wrote:
>> I'm an old Emacs from before window systems, so I do most of my work in
>> one (maybe two) frames on my laptop.  Old eyes don't see as well as they
>> used to, so I invariably use a slightly larger font and hit the maximize
>> button.  I've configured my font -- now how do I maximize from within my
>> startup file.
>
> I have the following line in my `~/.emacs.d/early-init.el`:
>
>     (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(fullscreen . maximized))
>
> It works in `~/.emacs.d/init.el` as well, but then the frame is first drawn and
> subsequently maximised. In `early-init.el`, you only see the maximised
> frame.

Neat!

-- 
David Masterson

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[David Masterson]

David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com> writes:

> Joost Kremers <joostkremers@fastmail.fm> writes:
>
>> On Fri, Dec 04 2020, David Masterson wrote:
>>> I'm an old Emacs from before window systems, so I do most of my work in
>>> one (maybe two) frames on my laptop.  Old eyes don't see as well as they
>>> used to, so I invariably use a slightly larger font and hit the maximize
>>> button.  I've configured my font -- now how do I maximize from within my
>>> startup file.
>>
>> I have the following line in my `~/.emacs.d/early-init.el`:
>>
>>     (add-to-list 'default-frame-alist '(fullscreen . maximized))
>>
>> It works in `~/.emacs.d/init.el` as well, but then the frame is first drawn and
>> subsequently maximised. In `early-init.el`, you only see the maximised
>> frame.
>
> Neat!

Not so neat -- early-init.el?  It doesn't work for me and I don't see it
documented in Emacs v26.3 Info files.  I assume this is a file run after
site-init.el, but before init.el, but it's not documented.

Also, I think initial-frame-alist is better for me as my initial frame
is my main work area and other frames are temporary popup references.
Setting this in my .emacs works as you said.

Thanks for the pointer.
-- 
David Masterson

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[Pankaj Jangid]

David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com> writes:

> Not so neat -- early-init.el?  It doesn't work for me and I don't see it
> documented in Emacs v26.3 Info files.  I assume this is a file run after
> site-init.el, but before init.el, but it's not documented.

early-init.el is not available before emacs-27. It is documented in
Elisp manual of emacs-27 onwards.

Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?

[David Masterson]

Pankaj Jangid <pankaj@codeisgreat.org> writes:

> David Masterson <dsmasterson92630@outlook.com> writes:
>
>> Not so neat -- early-init.el?  It doesn't work for me and I don't see it
>> documented in Emacs v26.3 Info files.  I assume this is a file run after
>> site-init.el, but before init.el, but it's not documented.
>
> early-init.el is not available before emacs-27. It is documented in
> Elisp manual of emacs-27 onwards.

Ah. I haven't upgraded yet.  Thanks

-- 
David Masterson

byte compiler, `modify-face', and "Programmatically" (was: Re: Programmatically maximize Emacs during startup?)

[Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor]

What is this word that suddenly is everywhere,
"programmatically"? I know what it means of course but I always
felt you do everything the same way in Emacs, only in different
ways, right?

There are just some technicalities to the different flows and
executions and evaluations and invocations, and while they are
good to understand, it is nothing to focus on, right?

The documentation even says, in Lisp, don't use this, instead
do etc etc.

While I agree with the documentation, this only show it is all
the same!

BTW every time the documentation says that kind of thing,
a corresponding warning from the byte-compiler should come (if
possible to detect, of course, but often it is really simple so
why not? if it doesn't - consider it a bug.

E.g., use `modify-face' in code, the byte compiler should warn,
as it does in the docstring,

  For non-interactive use, ‘set-face-attribute’ is preferred.

Well, it is just an example.

That makes sense :)

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