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envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125656 Archived-At: > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 9:25 AM > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments > > > From: Christopher Dimech > > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 08:59:02 +0100 > > Sensitivity: Normal > > > > > > > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 8:28 AM > > > From: "Eli Zaretskii" > > > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments > > > > > > > From: Christopher Dimech > > > > Date: Fri, 27 Nov 2020 01:47:08 +0100 > > > > Sensitivity: Normal > > > > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > > > > > > > > The manuals should be rewritten because they are incomprehensible. > > > > Perhaps it was good in the eighties. It continues forever. Consi= der > > > > "face customisation" for instance, which just means font. Nobody > > > > fuckin reads a manual with 17 nodes. You don't know which one to = use, > > > > which commands are most useful, and so on. The problem gets compo= unded > > > > because every esoteric command is there. > > > > > > > > You are just insisting on something bad and inefficient. > > > > > > Fair warning: if that is your attitude towards our documentation, > > > please be aware that there will be some people here who'd refrain fr= om > > > helping you. We don't work for you, so if you refuse to help yourse= lf > > > by becoming more proficient with the extensive documentation feature= s > > > in Emacs, we cannot be expected to hold your hand forever. > > > > It is well known that some at Gnu cannot take criticisms when others > > try to read what others write. > > "I won't read your stuff because it's incomprehensible" is not a valid > criticism. Criticism implies that you want to improve something, not > disregard it summarily. Did not say I won't read. I read it.