Re: Auto Fill Comments

[Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>]

> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 8:02 AM
> From: "Arthur Miller" <arthur.miller@live.com>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>, "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments
>
> Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> writes:
>
> >> Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 7:27 AM
> >> From: "Arthur Miller" <arthur.miller@live.com>
> >> To: "Jean Louis" <bugs@gnu.support>
> >> Cc: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>, "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> >> Subject: Re: Auto Fill Comments
> >>
> >> Jean Louis <bugs@gnu.support> writes:
> >>
> >> > * Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com> [2020-11-27 05:22]:
> >> >> > Sent: Friday, November 27, 2020 at 2:57 AM
> >> >> > From: "arthur miller" <arthur.miller@live.com>
> >> >> > To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>, "Drew Adams" <drew.adams@oracle.com>
> >> >> > Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" <help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>
> >> >> > Subject: RE: RE: Auto Fill Comments
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Yes, Emacs terminology is old.
> >> >
> >> > It may be old but not obsolete. You may be younger than Emacs and you
> >> > encounter things that were already there before you, but need not be
> >> > obsolete.
> >> >
> >> >> I dislike killing stuff, reminds me > of war, I never heard word
> >> >> yank before I start using and font > locking sounds like I am in a
> >> >> prison. But if you can go past few > names, Emacs is quite useful
> >> >> piece of software. Probably the most > advanced terminal emulator I
> >> >> have ever used, and it even has a > text editor built in.
> >> >
> >> > Words cannot and should not be chosen in the manner not to affect each
> >> > person. There is subset of words we name vulgar or obscene and they
> >> > are such because people agree to be so and that such should not be
> >> > used. Yet there is literature where such words are appropriate on the
> >> > right place.
> >> >
> >> > One reader can despise word A, other word B, other word C, other word
> >> > D, and then in the end, if one should follow that principle then
> >> > better not write at all! There is no logic in trying to accommodate
> >> > every person's traumatic experiences.
> >> >
> >> > What does make sense to help in understanding is using dictionaries
> >> > and finding definitions.
> >> >
> >> > Here I just pulled the definition of the noun "kill" and verb "kill"
> >> > from the Wordnet dictionary:
> >> >
> >> > The noun does not apply in the Emacs context as it is not verb. But
> >> > even the noun here shows that "killing" may be used in the sense of
> >> > very large profit. See:
> >> > https://idioms.thefreedictionary.com/make+a+killing
> >> >
> >> > The word in itself is harmless. Trauma that person associates with the
> >> > word is what hurts the person. To lessen that effect it is advisable
> >> > to find the true meanings of the words used and in which context as
> >> > that way one will not use the imaginative meanings or wrong meanings
> >> > that stem from person's mind.
> >> >
> >> > * Overview of noun killing
> >> >
> >> > The noun killing has 3 senses (first 2 from tagged texts)
> >> > 1. (5) killing, violent death -- (an event that causes someone to die)
> >> > 2. (5) killing, kill, putting to death -- (the act of terminating a life)
> >> > 3. killing, cleanup -- (a very large profit)
> >> >
> >> > Not even English speaking people will know that the verb "kill" has
> >> > this many senses. One can see that definition number 12 applies here:
> >> >
> >> > 12. kill, obliterate, wipe out -- (mark for deletion, rub off, or
> >> > erase; "kill these lines in the President's speech")
> >> >
> >> > Thus the verb "to kill" is part of English language. If person is not
> >> > English speaker or does not find proper definitions of course that
> >> > most used definition will be used. If you find yourself having
> >> > troubles or you find something not logical, please open up dictionary
> >> > and look up definitions.
> >> >
> >> > One can see in the below examples that there are other valid uses of
> >> > the word "kill" in various senses.
> >> >
> >> > * Overview of verb kill
> >> >
> >> > The verb kill has 15 senses (first 3 from tagged texts)
> >> > 1. (103) kill -- (cause to die; put to death, usually intentionally or
> >> > knowingly; "This man killed several people when he tried to rob a bank"; "The
> >> > farmer killed a pig for the holidays")
> >> > 2. (1) kill, shoot down, defeat, vote down, vote out -- (thwart the passage of; "kill a motion"; "he shot down the student's proposal")
> >> > 3. (1) stamp out, kill -- (end or extinguish by forceful means; "Stamp out poverty!")
> >> > 4. kill -- (be fatal; "cigarettes kill"; "drunken driving kills")
> >> > 5. kill -- (be the source of great pain for; "These new shoes are killing me!")
> >> > 6. kill -- (overwhelm with hilarity, pleasure, or admiration; "The comedian was so funny, he was killing me!")
> >> > 7. kill -- (hit with so much force as to make a return impossible, in racket games; "She killed the ball")
> >> > 8. kill -- (hit with great force; "He killed the ball")
> >> > 9. kill -- (deprive of life; "AIDS has killed thousands in Africa")
> >> > 10. kill -- (cause the death of, without intention; "She was killed in the collision of three cars")
> >> > 11. toss off, pop, bolt down, belt down, pour down, down, drink down, kill --
> >> > (drink down entirely; "He downed three martinis before dinner"; "She killed a
> >> > bottle of brandy that night"; "They popped a few beer after work")
> >> > 12. kill, obliterate, wipe out -- (mark for deletion, rub off, or erase; "kill these lines in the President's speech")
> >> > 13. kill -- (tire out completely; "The daily stress of her work is killing her")
> >> > 14. kill -- (cause to cease operating; "kill the engine")
> >> > 15. kill -- (destroy a vitally essential quality of or in; "Eating artichokes kills the taste of all other foods")
> >>
> >> > What does make sense to help in understanding is using dictionaries
> >> > and finding definitions.
> >> Indeed; my engish really sux I know! Thank your posting the meaning of
> >> world kill, being long time until I worked on my glossary.
> >>
> >> Frankly I said old; I didn't said obsolete; nor incomprehensive;
> >> on contrary. Didn't you read that from the message I tried to convey?
> >>
> >> I think you are going into waters we don't need to go to here. I was
> >> illustrating to the guy that everybody can find things to disslike, but
> >> at the end terminology is just names, just a combination of characters
> >> or sounds not to get attached to.
> >>
> >> > If you find yourself having
> >> > troubles or you find something not logical, please open up dictionary
> >> > and look up definitions.
> >>
> >> > The word in itself is harmless. Trauma that person associates with the
> >> > word is what hurts the person. To lessen that effect it is advisable
> >> > to find the true meanings of the words used and in which context as
> >> > that way one will not use the imaginative meanings or wrong meanings
> >> > that stem from person's mind.
> >> For the record; I have no traumas, and if I did I would certainly not
> >> ask for the advice on the Internet but I can't be not to comment your
> >> statements:
> >>
> >> Do you mean, when people have traumas, they should get a dictionary to
> >> read, to make them feel better? Because that is what you are saying! :D
> >> Is that seriously what you are claiming, or you are just trying to be
> >> ironic/sarcastic?
> >>
> >> If that is so, then I hope you are not working as a psychiatrist. That
> >> sounds a little bit odd if you believe that people have traumas because
> >> they got wrong meaning of a word. I would rather claim the
> >> opposite. Also saying people use imaginative meanings is quite a wild
> >> claim; that is somethign you would have to assert on per case basis.
> >
> > The last time I had trauma, it was from ringing my head after hitting a glass door.
> > I absolutely did not see the door.  Why do people have to clean so good!
> If you just had a dictionary .... :-)
>
> Btw, I once did the same. Was too lazy to turn on lights but I could
> still barely see in the corridor; forgott there was a glass door in that
> corridor which I didn't see in the dark, and found myself sitting on the
> floor after like 5 steps into the corridor. I had a scar on my nose for
> like few weeks; everythign was blue in front of my eyes when I banged
> into it :-)

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