From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: RE: Auto Fill Comments Date: Tue, 1 Dec 2020 16:50:09 +0100 Message-ID: References: <871rgd6jzk.fsf@web.de> <87r1oclvkp.fsf@web.de> <87blffzq7f.fsf@web.de> <87wny2r1a1.fsf@web.de> <236fb79f-014c-412f-9c78-fd9c774a57fc@default> <20201201084224.GA26076@tuxteam.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="12736"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: tomas@tuxteam.de Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Tue Dec 01 16:52:19 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kk7wx-0003Dk-9Q for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 16:52:19 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:39342 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kk7ww-00073b-5l for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 10:52:18 -0500 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:40104) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kk7v0-00073C-DT for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 10:50:18 -0500 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.19]:55399) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kk7uy-00058Y-Ab for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Tue, 01 Dec 2020 10:50:18 -0500 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1606837809; bh=1opPp23ZdCdXaNlw5GQS0Q+Wvtsk+suDwqxU7DfUTNA=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=gQ1nuurCM1SxjkHHqRYoOn06XYktk5iIbUamrIOj/exQcG0cZqXlNzTdvUliWn4qZ g+BauI60qS+1bDaykty0lzgx0ukOGlkRO+We35DwEcGAfW7FqT0NLyCUvRnJO4kuN4 W4ECriLbL3/F/jo8GzfJhPxh5tFA2j12wadAAmMk= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs05.server.lan [172.19.170.173]) (via HTTP); Tue, 1 Dec 2020 16:50:09 +0100 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: <20201201084224.GA26076@tuxteam.de> X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:TM4ZfmNIPIY3pb9KsWBFm3dmcR/y+KU9Z/AdEznEi6Vy3qJxvUkYRhNciJypxHVdu3Y3I I7pKsCIMctHt91eSocJ9uLOmG6e/miKDe6jb5kytEK5M339m6qv8/GbCwMECvsBDhP8L1OyeA1yU R5MprsKlisa3UWqcqMq4pqt8l8ah3DkWfuSqKYhYC5uLjEBblxB4FmWjN4Oce9O4jLtjVbuldsin IP1j0u5GOQ2sUJrWO+0YKmaI40z6dmOIwiba88NBYcggWVa/6DQWyi+5isGJqbt9alBZQz9iDYTk eQ= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:JM5mEgp8gqk=:8SpSRkEOisP3tQAhGZBDiB +KnvwJoGtzPA3LTxd3YO48b7ZUikCoSi0Byz5xThYY9OjVKojciEpQk9ZdF5nQe6dlwMp7TuF bhosZWDEZ7XMzANl/xcbFzOvADjH78JdcuzfMql3RdP0JqmYiKb0roIpcfhYRkiDKNY6EjZDK 0pcbxRXuVFRRKZaQ1a/nlKaDgeLN+Bk2FJ6D2/BnDpTMdnjqV0IvD5EZBka8ej1yGWOc/pVTd 4XxAxJWmJh/ISx3LDyCc/H2WhQhevxpiIkSkIVIE46uSRuFcvhzxKBH9NMTDP7EjQJudWuXan ByDH4kso2DssfsRJ1Tz4fHWWPI4G6rEvpE51n0oB5bdsls2q67os21yucBBe+qi/sBpfi4dNO +gRZf6CV6JXcBNwy8siHL2NIS8OsZU93dRn6caLHkVmZ/NKAXYu6CAfVNQrKycbFjQaU4AAyN aiIabrLKPD3iBR5jslcQq1eZs5UCb/mg/2VIURpG6iYdsBlXi+6pcdNGNNWL3mD31eI6pL7tX kbFrZu0HkYwkHIMWXH33u12dWOfm3uR9JpIwFlebRYykQpfku0z+MEjMNnRsJYD9md/f4xiAP LxrretK405Kfk= Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.19; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:125790 Archived-At: > Sent: Tuesday, December 01, 2020 at 9:42 AM > From: tomas@tuxteam.de > To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: RE: Auto Fill Comments > > On Tue, Dec 01, 2020 at 12:22:11AM +0100, Christopher Dimech wrote: > > That's a great example. We can have a function that sets fill-column > > as buffer-local and hook it to programming mode, c-mode say. > > Why mix a mode in? This makes the example unnecessarily complex. > Just fill-column, buffer-local, that's it. > > > That would > > be a useful example. And users can try it out and see things work. > > > > Yes, it is repeating and RTFM, but with a serious code example to exci= te > > people to write actual code after the prose. > > The interesting challenge is that different people have diverse > approaches at learning. Covering as much ground as possible > without exploding in size (which would hinder learning, too) > is that Herculean task. That's probably why there's more than > 1 book. Have thought about that. Perhaps we can leave the current manual alone as an advanced reference. How do others feel about it? It is good that the challenge is being recognised. I can see what I can do from my side. I understand your concern and shall focus on an abbreviated guide. > I claim the Emacs folks have done an outstanding job with the > two manuals and the introduction /on top of/ the whole "live" > doc (docstrings, ref to source, etc.). The only software projects > I could name rivalling that doc would be Don Knuth's TeX and > METAFONT, but they are (one? several?) orders of magnitude less > complex than Emacs at this point. > > Cheers > - t >