From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Re: Modifier Keys and the Archaic Meta Key Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2020 22:32:13 +0100 Message-ID: References: <877dre3uq7.fsf@t510.orion.oneofus.la> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="26405"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org To: Vladimir Sedach Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun Oct 25 22:35:44 2020 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1kWnfz-0006kl-SH for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 25 Oct 2020 22:35:43 +0100 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:57034 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1kWnfy-0000D1-LY for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; 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envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-detected-operating-system: by eggs.gnu.org: First seen = 2020/10/25 17:07:58 X-ACL-Warn: Detected OS = Linux 3.11 and newer [fuzzy] X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:124717 Archived-At: =2D-------------------- Christopher Dimech Chief Administrator - Naiad Informatics - GNU Project (Geocomputation) - Geophysical Simulation - Geological Subsurface Mapping - Disaster Preparedness and Mitigation - Natural Resource Exploration and Production - Free Software Advocacy > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2020 at 9:40 PM > From: "Vladimir Sedach" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org > Subject: Re: Modifier Keys and the Archaic Meta Key > > > Christopher Dimech writes: > > Today, Lisp Machines and their keyboards are only historical > > keyboards whose use has become academic. > > On the contrary - ever since Microsoft introduced extra modifier keys > with the Microsoft Natural Keyboard 104 key layout in 1994 (the only > decent thing I can think to have come from Microsoft), the Lisp > Machine style key bindings and mnemonics became relevant for PCs. The > Lisp Machine style keyboard layout simply provides a better ergonomic > experience, not just for Emacs, but for all programs that make use of > the Control key. It is straightforward to configure the layout for > any PC keyboard. Give it a try: C* I fully agree with you. Some of use change they key-mapping to the original position of Lisp Machine Keyboards - i.e. with Ctrl closest to the Space Bar. > > https://oneofus.la/have-emacs-will-hack/2018-04-08-lisp-machine-keyboard= -layout-in-x11.html > > -- > Vladimir Sedach > Software engineering services in Los Angeles https://oneofus.la > >