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> =20 > > > > The GNU project doesn't have any political opinions aside from tha= t > > > > of > > > > the free software movement=2E I hope that includes not taking sid= es > > > > on > > > > the conflict in the Ukraine, or otherwise I will not be able to > > > > continue working on Emacs=2E > > >=20 > > > Why require so hardly such neutrality? I mean other projects did so = by > > > the past > > > > The Chinese Communist Party is avoiding criticizing Russia's invasion = of > > Ukraine=2E It is therefore unsurprising to encounter such propaganda > > here=2E >=20 > What does this have to do at all with china? I don=E2=80=99t like how yo= u are linking Po Lu with that=20 > while he have shown to be greatly committed to the values of freedom, mo= re than many=20 > ppl here=2E His point was about not taking sides=2E Which means not criticising the r= ussian state=2E=20 =20 > Linking ppl opinions=E2=80=99 with their nationality is already what is = fueling both russia=E2=80=99s=20 > aggression and the oppression of russians by both putin and the now misl= ead and hypocrit=20 > rest of the world, please don=E2=80=99t further that and what you were c= riticizing yourself Was commenting on his employers as his motivation was employer related=2E = =20 =20 > > Society has become too quick to pass judgement and declare someone > > Persona Non-Grata, the most extreme form of censure a country can > > bestow=2E > >=20 > > In a new era of destructive authoritarianism, I support Richard > > Stallman=2E Times of great crisis are also times of great > > opportunity=2E I call upon you to make this struggle yours as well ! > >=20 > > https://stallmansupport=2Eorg/ > > https://www=2Efsf=2Eorg/ https://www=2Egnu=2Eorg/ >=20 > this is totally unrelated, and eastern people, among which undistinguish= edly chineses,=20 > russians and ukrainians, were the one showing most support=2E Correct=2E Have not said anything against any of those people=2E