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From: Christopher Dimech <dimech@gmx.com>
To: Alexandre Garreau <galex-713@galex-713.eu>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
Date: Sun, 27 Feb 2022 12:44:16 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-48b313e8-4c16-4452-bfcb-0a5e3dc535be-1645962256500@3c-app-mailcom-bs09> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <9066401.Kt4ZO7ab6L@galex-713.eu>


> Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2022 at 11:19 PM
> From: "Alexandre Garreau" <galex-713@galex-713.eu>
> To: "Christopher Dimech" <dimech@gmx.com>
> Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: no to war in Ukraine
>
> Le dimanĉo, 27-a de februaro 2022 10-a horo kaj 51:49 CET, vous avez écrit :
> > ----- Christopher Dimech
> > Administrator General - Naiad Informatics - Gnu Project
> > 
> > Society has become too quick to pass judgement
> 
> why do you do that yourself here after then????
>  
> > > > The GNU project doesn't have any political opinions aside from that
> > > > of
> > > > the free software movement.  I hope that includes not taking sides
> > > > on
> > > > the conflict in the Ukraine, or otherwise I will not be able to
> > > > continue working on Emacs.
> > > 
> > > Why require so hardly such neutrality? I mean other projects did so by
> > > the past
> >
> > The Chinese Communist Party is avoiding criticizing Russia's invasion of
> > Ukraine.  It is therefore unsurprising to encounter such propaganda
> > here.
> 
> What does this have to do at all with china? I don’t like how you are linking Po Lu with that 
> while he have shown to be greatly committed to the values of freedom, more than many 
> ppl here.

His point was about not taking sides.  Which means not criticising the russian state. 
 
> Linking ppl opinions’ with their nationality is already what is fueling both russia’s 
> aggression and the oppression of russians by both putin and the now mislead and hypocrit 
> rest of the world, please don’t further that and what you were criticizing yourself

Was commenting on his employers as his motivation was employer related.  
 
> > Society has become too quick to pass judgement and declare someone
> > Persona Non-Grata, the most extreme form of censure a country can
> > bestow.
> > 
> > In a new era of destructive authoritarianism, I support Richard
> > Stallman.  Times of great crisis are also times of great
> > opportunity.  I call upon you to make this struggle yours as well !
> > 
> > https://stallmansupport.org/
> > https://www.fsf.org/     https://www.gnu.org/
> 
> this is totally unrelated, and eastern people, among which undistinguishedly chineses, 
> russians and ukrainians, were the one showing most support.

Correct.  Have not said anything against any of those people.




  reply	other threads:[~2022-02-27 11:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 87+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2022-02-26 12:31 phantom invasion and ghostly resistance Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-26 14:36 ` Jean Louis
2022-02-27  8:57   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-26 23:57 ` no to war in Ukraine Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:02   ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27  0:17     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:18       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27  0:24         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  0:59           ` Po Lu
2022-02-27  8:46         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28  9:17       ` butterfly effect Jean Louis
2022-03-01  9:47       ` no to war in Ukraine Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 10:35         ` goncholden
2022-03-01 10:45           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 11:00             ` goncholden
2022-03-01 12:37               ` Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 13:09                 ` goncholden
2022-03-01 13:12                   ` Uwe Brauer
2022-03-01 13:35                     ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:02                     ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:34                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 14:52                         ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-03-01 15:29                           ` goncholden
2022-03-01 14:05                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 13:59               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 10:41         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  1:10     ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-27  1:27       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  8:48       ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:18       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-27 11:35         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 18:31         ` Dmitry Gutov
2022-02-27 18:40           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-28  9:23           ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28  9:22         ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28  9:19       ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 13:22         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 13:45           ` Samuel Banya
2022-02-28  9:16     ` Jean Louis
2022-02-28 11:46       ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-28 12:42         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-28 13:35           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 14:44             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 14:49               ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 13:50         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 15:10           ` Jacob Hrbek
2022-02-28 15:39             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-03-01  4:24           ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-01  4:24           ` Richard Stallman
2022-03-01  9:22             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-27  7:49   ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  8:05     ` Po Lu
2022-02-27  8:39       ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27  8:58         ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  9:23           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27  8:53       ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27  9:51         ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:19           ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:44             ` Christopher Dimech [this message]
2022-02-27 10:12         ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 10:22           ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 10:25             ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 11:15               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:31                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:54                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:48                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 11:53                   ` Eli Zaretskii
2022-02-27 12:00                     ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 12:06                   ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 12:14                   ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 10:52             ` tomas
2022-02-27 11:24               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:24             ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:48               ` Christopher Dimech
2022-02-27 11:54                 ` Po Lu
2022-02-27 12:13                 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-27 11:22           ` Alexandre Garreau
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2022-02-27  3:25 emacsq
2022-02-27  8:09 ` goncholden
2022-02-27  8:51 ` Alexandre Garreau
2022-02-28 15:26   ` emacsq via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-02-28 15:30     ` emacsq via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 17:13 Humberto Freitas
2022-03-01 17:11 ` goncholden
2022-03-01 19:33 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2022-03-01 19:54   ` goncholden
2022-03-01 20:05     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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