From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: Don't think Emacs package may be proprietary Date: Sun, 23 May 2021 15:54:13 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87a6om1022.fsf@zoho.eu> <871r9x25l8.fsf@zoho.eu> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="8664"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, moasenwood@zoho.eu To: Jean Louis Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Sun May 23 15:55:17 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lkoZY-00023a-Dv for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 23 May 2021 15:55:16 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:49780 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lkoZX-0007to-GK for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Sun, 23 May 2021 09:55:15 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:46450) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lkoZ6-0007te-R2 for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2021 09:54:48 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.15]:34685) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lkoZ4-0002TA-PX for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Sun, 23 May 2021 09:54:48 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1621778053; bh=IWvK382xcdJR71qJN89QjCJkALt1MRYS9ZiyhINY/7s=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=NhZOuoHPswr7GM6MXjgJJXfeF657poWq5LtpFA4FLFALJjnu/7VVFFnAP1SWqZrEe fAmFoEMGcH99rpZ6b3xOjPa7cBjLz6WFIqO9Sv0S8jem4ZQwWVa2oABdv/MEa3tMYc sD6nu7fb2oR/z47vP7LlUw2j5a9zkG7e6EB0rtcI= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs09.server.lan [172.19.170.177]) (via HTTP); Sun, 23 May 2021 15:54:13 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:wzs0/QtpajmPUNfkgulC8RIubik7l4WixB114G1kspArr/tCUb55uAW12N90pXmv5bbC7 0e4dx72if3bSVxelWE3LhR5A8hDXewrGfpGF0ev+PQM/LDi+1lOa2deHcegWaDLMgcLiB3GsIDaI vlTj3w/JkOS7ptGvoX6dUfydyPWuPSNofNgcrqc390E7sdgWaNpNFV3wkBYPYg3u3VIWsY9MpPao ifuPn0c5EPgsddIZh9orFSMJ83J8f6dpBbUYFLc/sU9qO/XxwNvGZdqnge2eDc6v30WKHRu/paBv Y4= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:sFfL2/gMGlA=:v2q+YOE30rnIJSGtaTd4Ay yxsMPLbVUqOw4bf5Wzbt9KQcUApg2VVQfOdAdKL4AWrELVT1MfQtCgFf/ScwPd7a+g2vYbbsH fkirl4blKwdt+xG1UPfVo3/wg3bZi6SvIZziXfJSjY6PeFLhVAlaIXcTCffYKV1M+miAaGe8Q +Ts9uC9sQE4K9JP+mMinlQrfawIB3RTdUchQWynp42u3MoWLgek5WzP567Bn/1xC9MHtzDM3b iVvaaSbDRv3m2dAbtZ9aB6sSx61ajYcycfi3eqtGCfZruBHpqu/mEQTj76gnemSjcnxOYhypv mH+T1ej2u9v+/naHgKhfQZyhhCxCNtuZJjri8cWUg+70XwPQck/Kbmltip69IYf2YGSZHQK2o 6REsUMSYb5UOUNJCoppUM8yaJZMQWKf+6jpnUVf7e4Nsl8ftEVy29CceklwhxkphpVbB+5jl6 0Dvw2cy8kvsBw5wx64UxN7lI0sl4fW1/84WPHMaq0ni6G0o/cGw+jMIadET3EEElP7KBessc1 VMgjJKXm3rDzpV4q5KEC6ohXiSf8ag9q2vY5TJGs4UqlNoFUi50hjTWEs9OsXwjXORq6uq+Ry j6DcLZIFyW9B/UbbaGoA/KVJOkR7hbrs1d0Ks2fG7dom8Au0juYaNKJYFDkKkNKqsAZmTB9QO SRnpkFpnnNGNbwndDsbzYsqH2AjXx5Ihus6xv5/Uuxmml3Wv+AtcFSGdqc0WASknW0eRHJOaG 3vUXNg+1bH1QuELJQVE1rbM0xhiS7gxopwoIhUZg3unI5cl7a7NMrcCCRm2uEBMJ/PDfkWA4 Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.15; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -18 X-Spam_score: -1.9 X-Spam_bar: - X-Spam_report: (-1.9 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H3=-0.01, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_WL=-0.01, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130134 Archived-At: > Sent: Monday, May 24, 2021 at 1:09 AM > From: "Jean Louis" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org, moasenwood@zoho.eu > Subject: Don't think Emacs package may be proprietary > > * Christopher Dimech [2021-05-23 15:49]: > > For official Gnu Software that is true, but onu can also make a > > package for emacs where the code is proprietary. > > Not when released to public in any way. Internally in one's house > person may do what one wishes, internally in the company, company may > do what they want with it. I can make an proprietary emacs package without using any free software. I just cannot use code released with a free software license. > They cannot sell it, or in any way release to public as license does > not allows it. > > Emacs package modifies Emacs and requires Emacs to run and thus > creates modified version of Emacs and has to be GPL3+ > compatible. Emacs package with Emacs editor make a combined > program. My statement is quite different. Having emacs cater to proprietary users = is a poor decision. But people can do what they want. Pragmatically speaking, focusing your mind on the freedom and community a= nd thinking about greater long-term goals will strengthen you to resist this pressure. School Administrators around the world should stop requiring students to r= un non-free software. If hard-nosed cynics ridicule freedom because in their mind unjust profit = is the only purpose, ignore them. > Read here: https://www.gnu.org/licenses/gpl-faq.html#GPLPlugins > > > > -- > Jean > > Take action in Free Software Foundation campaigns: > https://www.fsf.org/campaigns > > Sign an open letter in support of Richard M. Stallman > https://stallmansupport.org/ > >