From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: [External] : Supplying DOC string in a `defun' using `defvar' Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2021 15:43:02 +0200 Message-ID: References: <87r1hlw6pn.fsf@web.de> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Injection-Info: ciao.gmane.io; posting-host="blaine.gmane.org:116.202.254.214"; logging-data="21093"; mail-complaints-to="usenet@ciao.gmane.io" Cc: "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" To: Stefan Monnier Original-X-From: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Thu Jun 03 15:44:21 2021 Return-path: Envelope-to: geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org Original-Received: from lists.gnu.org ([209.51.188.17]) by ciao.gmane.io with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.92) (envelope-from ) id 1lone0-0005BE-MA for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 15:44:20 +0200 Original-Received: from localhost ([::1]:43168 helo=lists1p.gnu.org) by lists.gnu.org with esmtp (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1londz-0000ZG-Mw for geh-help-gnu-emacs@m.gmane-mx.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 09:44:19 -0400 Original-Received: from eggs.gnu.org ([2001:470:142:3::10]:51934) by lists.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1lond2-000881-3a for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 09:43:20 -0400 Original-Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]:48989) by eggs.gnu.org with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.90_1) (envelope-from ) id 1loncz-00047r-To for help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org; Thu, 03 Jun 2021 09:43:19 -0400 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/simple; d=gmx.net; s=badeba3b8450; t=1622727782; bh=PMp2i+z5lxuNrnkUuyipCquZytNToaYI938+KOtic64=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:From:To:Cc:Subject:Date:In-Reply-To:References; b=Vg9dTqDoODc2vbErVQwFiVq5l37Q5s7iNmttY9cWXAhHO/QCR/q/tjLUucllO+4F5 G0295x1N2gtPvplmIJ8egPEppflSAgpn2YNj76wV72pkEH8bD3qwZ0DK8arNRebiVW 2x08UZ7bkDVvGOfHfrHcA9YC28kqnLcXx/qxmKac= X-UI-Sender-Class: 01bb95c1-4bf8-414a-932a-4f6e2808ef9c Original-Received: from [213.165.168.94] ([213.165.168.94]) by web-mail.gmx.net (3c-app-mailcom-bs08.server.lan [172.19.170.176]) (via HTTP); Thu, 3 Jun 2021 15:43:02 +0200 Importance: normal Sensitivity: Normal In-Reply-To: X-UI-Message-Type: mail X-Priority: 3 X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:MVCnlFit5lipQSzrEvJg+GH3pWPl2ZhQJv3X2ZHNnO3/9LoS6R2eXl0eckwBmo5JvLWs9 f8UeoJYaFQDrsnfsV6aIXObWVZA0XsOGACYM3OVZHlBc2Yjh33xEupP5yqsTF1cXOjn6NlTG6jl1 ZdelIdI0Ch+AUN6Jm+MRmRUB32gIDx/oxS1v4Qh+8wYfaRiML8uPvsO984+2aygrEzngoS3gSPmu 4wUuCmkcwOB9YGWG9ZyUR3nYuraKlalhLj0u9kgz0Zn53xL9NUhw2G5dNhnSQobbYxAkj9h6i058 WI= X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:p/gAgmnrD7I=:R0PKlL1dd0gEKMsu5b/Bbs s+6qBWSn64rj3hBEhb3Dj+/pdYj1n02NVUkZlqR8L/KTfE1Z97Ud+XFnR7Xc+7fJi+YRu6d6S AjnYZ3gNF9PrTqXZu8r2ZJWVD+X+PH+2ApLG31xQ4sdwvadszkUh5RuM5u9V/KI7DXsNbJwZS FR4eZGyUBKG6XD3XshAcnt3J7bNNJpTpcrOCFe2lGnrU/B7xZWLaFj2SrQNQJvFMtpakbLWKC sByY4OQSm5+y8x7xPO/jHtrx2m1pV/nTNY2xfARXIckQWuXrCWnxRl8p+hzkjEwOFRYHqGZck CGbkPSFj8+dj8Et3iIVSgX2OoiU0zCHdu2qEV2v5B+hpo/LrJtc6dx2LDzpRNU60aFBAgVec1 xtw2sHX/Ko7UUUJsfIfmZpNwP2kWuDvbF8IX5+jFDyPbxpdTQWy1uzGs8bv2tGHzmR1Mtop9h /CShs9m56vPEZycTxRx94P+PplRN8lppROGSPU4JtZNw8ZC16ZodHkae59lgpvO33pDIya5vW 1QIGr8vpjMcL109imWcYFI4n7Y92uBKKf6oDRzcE1g9epA8V7Gk9cgTWS5qtSQh1rM53J0Wdd S9zuG15nYbh7npimm6CwEiNZs4QhuY2hQGbQ/UQLJSja4fTGkNg0grJWuNmND950E6SKelq4Z oO1Zy11vEaFQjHu+yTMGRdaweKX0x/dTiPpFvDxyNUPdFX9AYqtHNiQGrT947elbr5GPgcs7q 0EfdYRLr9TQiUljkqeN0ufa5k3mRhmZufwVSee9L7IbheWmvMnl14wzn/0dlAUwWPyGZQ03k Received-SPF: pass client-ip=212.227.15.18; envelope-from=dimech@gmx.com; helo=mout.gmx.net X-Spam_score_int: -25 X-Spam_score: -2.6 X-Spam_bar: -- X-Spam_report: (-2.6 / 5.0 requ) BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, FREEMAIL_FROM=0.001, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW=-0.7, RCVD_IN_MSPIKE_H2=-0.001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_PASS=-0.001 autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no X-Spam_action: no action X-BeenThere: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.23 Precedence: list List-Id: Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , Errors-To: help-gnu-emacs-bounces+geh-help-gnu-emacs=m.gmane-mx.org@gnu.org Original-Sender: "help-gnu-emacs" Xref: news.gmane.io gmane.emacs.help:130530 Archived-At: Lars mentioned that although using :documentation works, "(:documentation = )" is a non-standard way of setting things up in contrast to something like "(declare (documentation ...))" What do you think? > Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2021 at 11:11 AM > From: "Stefan Monnier" > To: "Christopher Dimech" > Cc: "Drew Adams" , "help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org" > Subject: Re: [External] : Supplying DOC string in a `defun' using `defva= r' > > > How long will you allow users to move to the new dialect? > > I don't know. Emacs-24 introduced the new dialect back in 2012. > The conversion of Emacs's own ELisp code was just finished a couple > months ago, so I expect it'll quite a few more years. > > > And after that time, the lexical binding declaration would no longer > > be necessary, right? > > That's right. Most likely we'll first have a transition period where > the absence of a lexical-binding declaration will trigger a warning. > > > Stefan > >