From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Path: news.gmane.io!.POSTED.blaine.gmane.org!not-for-mail From: Christopher Dimech Newsgroups: gmane.emacs.help Subject: How users start programming in Emacs Lisp... 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:) > > > > Do you mean text files on the computer for example? > > > > Don't we do that already? > > > > Or they (the scientists) have more creative minds/notes > > you mean? > > > > Because me fiddling around with these files, can't say that > > has contributed to any huge success be it personal or > > scientific :) > > Computers are just a recent discovery, but anyway, computer or paper, it > is just a media. "Taking note" is a general human activity which can be > done independent of media. Computers are just tools, like taking notes. Use what you find useful. If a tool helps you, use it; if it doesn't, don't use it. > If you are (still) consuming most of your reading material from written > media, then I guess pen and paper are most suitable to you. If you are > like most people today consuming your information from a computer screen > then taking notes with your computer is probably more appropriate since > you will anyway have a keyboard and screen in front of you, ready to > just type. > > But anway, it is your choice :-). Einsteing didn't have a mini > calculator and Socrates didn't have neither paper nor computer (and > never took a note), so it's all relative and up to you :). > >