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From: steve-humphreys@gmx.com
To: Stefan Monnier <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
Cc: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
Subject: Re: Appending to a list
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2020 00:25:56 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <trinity-1a9cbef1-9e4d-4cc3-b5da-1df12a11de1f-1607901956787@3c-app-mailcom-bs09> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <jwvpn3djq5n.fsf-monnier+emacs@gnu.org>

> Sent: Sunday, December 13, 2020 at 11:43 PM
> From: "Stefan Monnier" <monnier@iro.umontreal.ca>
> To: help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org
> Subject: Re: Appending to a list
>
> >> `push` is what I would use:
> >>     (push "Swift" bird)
> >
> > This does not append.
> 
> Indeed, and it's a feature: append costs O(n), both in immediate CPU
> time and in memory allocations (which can increase memory use or at
> least increase the time spent in the GC) where `n` is the length of the
> list to which you append.  So if you do that O(n) times, you get an
> overall O(n²) complexity.

I don't care the way I insert.  If inserting in the beginning is more
efficient I would do that..  
 
> IOW, in most cases you're really better off with pushing to the
> beginning of the list, and if the order doesn't suit you, then use
> `reverse` afterwards, which will still be O(n) overall rather than
> O(n²).
> 
> >> No need to use `setq` here.
> >>
> >> `push` won't check if the element is already in the list, though. You can use
> >> `cl-pushnew` in that case, but be sure to load the library it's in:
> >>
> >>     (require 'cl-lib)
> >>     (cl-pushnew "Swift" bird)
> > Isn't that the same as
> > (add-to-list bird "Swift" t)
> 
> Not quite:
> 
> - your `t` at the end makes `add-to-list` add to the rear of the
>   list whereas `cl-pushnew` adds it to the front.
> - `add-to-list` would require you to quote the variable symbol, as in:
> 
>       (add-to-list 'bird "Swift" t)
> 
> - `add-to-list` cannot operate on a lexically scoped `bird` variable.
> 
> - `add-to-list` cannot operate on generalized variables, whereas
>   `cl-pushnew` (just like `push`) will be happy with things like
> 
>       (cl-pushnew "Swift" (gethash "birds" table))
> 
> - `cl-pushnew` by default compares with `eql` whereas here you'd likely
>   want to compare with `equal`, like `add-to-list` does, so you'd need:
> 
>       (cl-pushnew "Swift" bird :test #'equal)
> 
> BTW `push` is significantly faster than either of `add-to-list` or
> `cl-pushnew` since it doesn't need to check in O(n) time if the
> element is already on the list.
 

I am thinking using push if there are only few caveats when using it,
compared to the other ones.
 
>         Stefan
> 
> 
>



  reply	other threads:[~2020-12-13 23:25 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-12-13 20:46 Appending to a list steve-humphreys
2020-12-13 21:03 ` Joost Kremers
2020-12-13 21:30   ` Óscar Fuentes
2020-12-13 21:46     ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-13 22:37     ` Joost Kremers
2020-12-13 23:08       ` Joost Kremers
2020-12-13 22:43     ` Stefan Monnier
2020-12-13 23:25       ` steve-humphreys [this message]
2020-12-13 23:33         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-14  0:19           ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-14  0:37             ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-14  2:54               ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-14  2:58                 ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-14  3:23                   ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-14  4:07                 ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-14  4:16                   ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-14  4:23                   ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-14  4:50                     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-14  5:13                       ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-14  6:20                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-14  6:25                           ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-14  5:28                       ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-14  6:26                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-14 10:25                           ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-14  5:55                       ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-14  6:36                         ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-14 17:22                     ` Michael Heerdegen
2020-12-14 18:25                       ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-15  0:17                         ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-15  1:38                           ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor
2020-12-13 21:41   ` steve-humphreys
2020-12-13 23:31     ` Emanuel Berg via Users list for the GNU Emacs text editor

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